WHAT'S NEW
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Monday 6th September 2010
FLASH FROM THE PRESS.
We have received our first pledge of $1,500.00 from Olavio Francis Martins. He graduated from SJCS and so did all his siblings.His parents were active in the church., His father started the Boy Scout troop at the Church in Zanzibar.
Another pledge for $1000.00 received to-day.Please help us reach our goal to support a great cause-Our beautiful place of worship in Zanzibar that provided our spiritual growth.
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Subject: Repair on the Statues outside
Dear All
Kindly find attached various photos of the mentioned subject.
1. Photo 1 - Photo showing how the statues looked like before being damaged.
2. Photo 2 - State of statues before repairs.
3. Photo 3 - Statue of Angel brought down for repairs.
4. Photo 4 - Repairs on Angel brought down
5. 2354 - Both Angels repaired
6. 2362 - Lifting one angel to original position
7. 2374 - Lifting secong angel to original position
8. MG 5019 - Both angels placed in position after repairs.
9. MG 5025 - Both angels placed in position after repairs.
10. MG 5037 - Both angels placed in position after repairs but protected by wire mesh
Best regards
Anthony M. Gomes
Secretary/Renovation Committee
St. Joseph Cathedral Zanzibar
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Friday 20th August 2010
Dear SJCS Members
Further to the earlier posting (detailed below) re St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar, fund raising, it will be very pleasing for all our members to know that Anthony Antao has most kindly offered to take on this project and without any doubt we will all support him in every way.
In previous correspondence it is also great to learn the Fr. Alwyn has also given full support and commencing September 2010, Anthony will take full charge.
Please read correspondence below.
I take this opportunity of thanking Anthony Antao, Fr. Alwyn and equally thanking Joe De Lord for his full endorsement as per his message below.
Best regards
Benny
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Dear Benny
It is truly magnanimous of Anthony Antao to offer to take overall charge of the fund raising for the Cathedral project.
With his knowledge and enthusiasm and with valuable support from Fr Aldwyn, the project will receive tremendous impetus, and no doubt it will be efficiently handled.
I will second this proposal without hesitation. Obviously sub-committees would be set up in USA/Canada, in the U.K. and elsewhere, for fund-raising, and these sub-committees would co-ordinate with Anthony, who in turn, I would presume, will liaise with the Zanzibar committee who are already handling the project on site.
As for a title, maybe Global Fund-raising Co-ordinator (GFC) would be appropriate?
Kind regards
Joe
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-----Original Message-----From: Tony Antao
Sent: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:57
Subject: RE: Fund raising - St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Benito: Thanks for the trust on me. I will do my best to help in this beautiful cause to help restore our childhood church that gave us so much. I have talked to Fr. Al too.
My daughter, Amalia, is getting married on August 28, 2010 here in Milwaukee and so I wish to start getting involved after that date. In the mean time, provide me with names of people and email addresses who could form a subcommittee in UK in aiding this cause. I will try the same in Canada.
In the mean time, can Mr. Madera provide us with any cost estimate for this project and any organizations etc who you are trying to get funds. This will be helpful in informing the folks around the world of this worthwhile cause. Also, can you ask the bishop to write us for an appeal so that we can share it with all the folks. This would be very helpful. He could write to me or better Fr. Al.
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Dear SJCS (R.C. Members)
Further to the recent posting which can be viewed on blog spot
http://forodhanizbar.blogspot.com/ re Renovation of St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar.
Tony Nazareth and a few others have expressed their concern in supporting the project and prior to doing so, awaiting for some more information from Tony Madeira and the Organising Committee in Zanzibar.
Am attaching some more photos of the work currently in progress and all old background information has been copied below kindly provided by JO.
I think we have move ahead and make a quick start and to do so we need a team leader to handle this project. My immediate proposal is to appoint Antony (Tony) Antao as Project Manager/Co-ordinator representing all SJCS R.C. Members and of course others who are keen to participate in Fund Raising in any possible way.
Once again, all background information listed below and whoever takes on this project, hopefully Tony, should be the one responsible to follow up all future correspondence with respective parties in Zanzibar.
Joanita Gonsalves has kept all previous correspondence which I have copied below in no special running order. As some members may not want their personal emails released, I have withdrawn all email address in all previous postings below.
The old email correspondence can help provide some suggestions etc., to help us progress further and get started in the FUND RAISING to support our St. Joseph's Church Renovation
I personally do not know where to start so perhaps my personal proposal would be to appoint Anthony Antao as the Project Leader/Director in this special Fund Raising project. Anthony can plan the team he wants to assit him.
Reading previous correspondences, it is noted that Fr. Alwyn, Fr. Lloyd and a few others have also done a lot in the past and Tony Nazareth has been in the forefront supporting this venture. Briefly reading old background information does indicate that also Fr. Alwyn has done much in support and would be a very useful key player in getting this project off the ground.
As mentioned previously, perhaps we have 3 countries to assist which would be USA, Canada and UK. Let Tony Antao decide what’s best.
Look forward to good support from all our St. Joseph's R.C. members.
Regards
Benny
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From: Anthony
To: Fr. Al
CC: mmdacunha@gmail.com;
Subject: RE: St. Joseph's Cathedral/Repairs
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:09:55 -0600
Al: Thanks for the history of our church etc.
From my experience in the past, there was lots of bad feelings on the funds raised for the graveyard.
So I think, the bishop should provide us with a cost estimate needed to repair the church by priority. If the roof is the top priority, then what is the cost and how much he is depending on outside help and we can then say, yes we will help raise funds for this one portion. But to raise money for repairing the church without knowing how they are going to spend it etc, will be a hard sell.
I have no problems giving funds, but the bishop needs to break down each area that needs repairs and also which needs top priority first, second, etc, etc.I think it will be a shame if we lose this beautiful church where our catholic faith was nurtured and have many many memories.
From: al fur
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:56 PM
To: Anthony Antao
Cc: Myrna Da Cunha; DCunha;
Subject: St. Joseph's Cathedral/Repairs
Anthony,
Here's a short history re. St. Joseph's Cathedral.
Some years ago an attempt was made to declare this a United Nations World Heritage
(like the Anglican church near the Market built on the old site of the slave market).
At that time it was presumed that if this was done, then funds would be forthcoming from the a U.N. dept. relating to historical and cultural sites. (I think U. N. E.S.C.O. is part of this.)
However, the Bishop (Bishop Bernard Ngaviliau RIP),was told that he should get one of the member countries to donate the funds as U.N. no longer gave such funds. I was told that the French Govt. was contacted as this Church was built by the French Holy Ghost Fathers with all the material and artifacts coming from France. To get a complete job done - you are talking about a vast sum required.
But let us not be undaunted but help to take practical steps and do the BASIC REPAIRS REQUIRED TO AT LEAST PREVENT IT FROM FUTURE DETERIORATION ESPECIALLY BY THE RAINS. The heavy rains (Masika) in March could do untold damage to the church. Water is our worst adversary here. Once this is done an on-going effort should be co-ordinated to look for a bigger grant or donation to do a thorough job.
Let us do what we can from this end - an estimate for the present job should be forthcoming from the Committee there.
Thanks for your effort. We should all do our best as many of us received the Sacraments
of initiation in this Church (Bapt. Conf. and Euch.) and some even Marriage.
The present Bishop Augustine Shao could give you this estimate for the present repairs.
It's good to see that they have started the work.
God bless. Fr. Al
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Hi Anthony
Many thanks for your email.
Re: St. Joseph's Church Renovation Project - Zanzibar re your message on SJCSZ site.
As for St. Joseph's church, when I was in Zanzibar I met up with the priest in charge who than had given me a full report and figures etc. I am sure I had posted the information on my temporary website I had with the hope some folks would take on this project.
You are right in suggesting more information is now required and as such I will put your suggestions to Tony Madeira and ask him to provide details to include the managing committee etc. Will call him on Skype tomorrow morning and also forward your message which he may pick up on this site as Tony is a member. Yes, you are right and we must support.
I would like to suggest 3 teams take on this project, USA, Canada and United Kingdom. Just a few in each country help organise funds. Talking about London, there are a few well experienced folks who have the experience in fund raising, charities etc and who know the rules etc. The likes of Johnny Coutinho, Joe De Lord, Mario Machado and Astrid De Souza who could form a great team to help out.
Astrid is well experienced in managing databases using Excel and can keep good records etc. Never fails to deliver.
In America, one that comes to mind is Anthony Antao whom I am sure could do much as he has done in the past.
Canada, we have John De Silva, very reliable and enterprising. Of course Bosco.
I dont think I should post names but this is an unofficial note with open suggestions.
Once again thanks for your suggestions re St. Joseph's Church. You have set a good lead and hopefully details will follow shortly.
Best regards.
Kweheri Bwana - Benito
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In SJCSZanzibar@yahoogroups.com, "Tony De Nazareth" wrote:
Hi Benito.
Lovely pictures. I went round a couple of times stopping at various stalls and saying hello to people I know always eager to catch up with folks from Zanzibar.
I am surprised at the number I missed and you managed to capture. I will have to do better next year.
Thanks too for the link to the construction of St. Josephs Church. It conjures so many good memories for me that I am keen to support such a worthy cause. Tony M 's cause might be better served if he would let us know the cost of the construction, what they have managed to find to date and the shortfall they have to find. It is quite essential to provide a few more details such as bank account and people who will be responsible for monitoring the disbursement of these funds. Happy to help in any other way.
All the best,
Anthony
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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 02:17:49 -0700
From: stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Subject: Renovation Committee Members - St Joseph Cathedral Zanzibar
Hii Tony
The following is the list of the Renovation Committee members.
1. Fr. Evaristus Mushi Chairman
2. Charles Lubega Vice Chairman
3. Anthony Gomes Secretary
4. James Makale Asst. Secretary
5. Alice Salem Treasusurer
6. Richard Batista Member
7. Anthony Madeira Member
8. Raymond Martins Member
9. Ignatius Moniz Member
10. Raphael Mabagala Member
11. Enerst Kinangala Member
12. Laurian Kipeja Member
13. S.R Vincent Member
14. Fr. Manfred Mjengwa Member
15. Martin Philipo Member
Note: About the US Dollar Account No. I will advise tomorrow.
Best Regards
Anthony Gomes
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Hi Tony and Benito:
I just sent you all the correspondence I had saved from 2007 and 2008 regarding this topic. I thought it might be helpful to see what was happening three years ago when the initial appeal for funds went out and understand what the problems were.
Like I said previously, I know there are many folks who are still quite skeptical about sending in donations - those that sent money for the renovation of the cemetery are still smarting for nothing having been done there; others sent in money for church renovations and have proof that the money was used for the bishop's mansion. So we have to make this collection effort is something that people will have more faith in and be willing to give, AGAIN, and be assured that, this time around, their donations will be used appropriately.
I believe that it is important to have professionals who know what they are doing be the ones who do the renovations, rather than a rag tag bunch of folks. This would give this whole project more credibility.
As Tony Nazareth's email expressed, it is important to know exactly:
- what exactly is expected to be completed in each phase of the project
- how much will be needed for each phase
- what is the time line for completion of the each phase
- how long will it take to complete the total renovation
I think it is important to be completely transparent about all this by posting all this info on the internet.
I think we should have one person per country responsible for this. This means that all donations go to that one person - this would make things less confusing. The rest of the folks can be instrumental in urging people to send in their donations. Donations should be disbursed per phase rather than the lump sum sent.
In my many conversations with Lloyd, who in his 40 years as a parish priest sent hundreds of thousand of dollars to Sr. Hildergardis for her projects in Walezo and Arusha, the money was sent out in "instalments" by the mother house in Germany where Lloyd always sent the donations he collected. When a particular project was completed, he would get pictures and a run down of all the expenses for that particular project. Then the next sum of money would be released for the next project...He not only managed to renovate Walezo but was able to help the sisters set us another leper colony near Arusha - with a hospital, and chapel. The pictures and post renovation accounting made it easier to collect for succeeding projects.
Another issue he talked about was that when he initially sent the thousands directly to the sisters, the sisters always got short changed by the banks. They'd come home with bagful of money, and which they couldn't count at the bank, only to find that they weren't given all they had expected, and then couldn't go back to bank to argue about it because the bank wouldn't believe THEY made the error. So this is another issue the donation collectors should be aware of.
So, if the committee in Zanzibar can answer Tony Nazareth's concerns, that would be a good place to start. Once we have this we can put announcements on the t-goan and our school sites to appear on a regular basis.
Just my thoughts.
Jo
From: tony antao
To: al fur Jo Birkmeyer
Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 12:25:18 PM
Subject: st. Joseph church appeal
I would like to help raise funds from folks in the USA. However, I need your help. Would you be willing to serve on a committee for USA to solicit funds for this good cause. We have Al on the west coast, we need someone on the east coast. Do you know anyone who could help. Lloyd would be a good person, but the last time I approached him, he was not willing to participate. If Joanita/Al can try to convince him, that will be nice. Otherwise someone else you know in the NY/New Jersey area will be helpful. If you have any other folks who would be good candidates to serve, let me know.
I am willing to keep the accounts and remit the money to Zanzibar. But we must wait to see if there is someone in charge at the head of this fund raising e.g. Benito etc
Would appreciate your thoughts and ideas on this as this is a very good cause to save and restore it. This is our "Santa Sophia" like the church in Turkey.
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:46:44 -0800
From: stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Subject: Email Address of the Renovation of St. Joseph's Cathedral Zanzibar
Dear Office Bearers
Kindly be informed that the official email address for all correspondence concerning the renovation works on the Cathedral is as follows
stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Thanking you in advance for your kind co-operation.
Yours Sincerely
Anthony M. Gomes
Secretary
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From: al fur
Subject: Fw: With apologies - Bishop Shao,
To: "Jo Birkmeyer"
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007, 6:24 PM
This I received in Feb. It would be better to get the Bishop to write an Appeal
which can then be forwarded to all concerned. May be at the Goa reunion would be
a good time. God bless. Fr. Al
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From: Diocese of Zanzibar
To: al fur
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 5:40 AM
Subject: With apologies - Bishop Shao,
Dear Fr. Al,
Many season greetings and hope that you are doing well. I'm in receipt of a copy of e.mail that Fr. Casmir Nyaki sent to the manager of Missionary Spirit Travel in Arusha that you are contemplating of sending a group to Tanzania this year.
May I assure you Al. that the Spiritans and the diocese of Zanzibar owns a tour company in Arusha that is for tickets and tourist. I started the company in the early 90s. but was closed in late 1998. It is now in operation and we are indeed looking for clients who can use our facilities.
It is more active in Arusha and the costal areas, taking people to Bagamoyo, where the Spiritans have an animation center. Sporadically, tourists come to Zanzibar and are taken care by our faithful like Fabian and Tonny.
Very soon the company will be on the web-site and will be able to read what it offers. Since the company is building itself we don't talk of profit yet, but of course the future is bright. We are as well looking for partners abroad, and you may be in the position of getting interested people to gang with us. You are welcome Al to avail to the facilities.
Back home in Zanzibar, it is quite hot now or otherwise everything is okay.
We have just risked to start form one this year at Tomondo and we have 38 students girls and boys together. We hope to separate them once we get funds to finish the Chejcu center. There are still some demands at Tomondo, and by next year we will need dormitories for form two and two streams of form one.
In the primary school we still have about 35% to 40% of our Christian children who cannot pay the fees and have to be assisted. Thank you for being part of our struggles and may God bless you in every way.
We are as well working on our Cathedral roof. We are replacing it all. It will cost us over 97 million Tanzanian shillings. When we get to finish it, then the chase will remain on the walls and the Mosaic paintings. We will for sure look for volunteers who know about Mosaic paintings. Keep us in your prayer Al.
May God bless you during this Lenten season the season for purification and blessing.
Fraternally in Christ,
Bishop Shao, C.S.Sp.
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From: al fur
Subject: re. Funds for the Church
To: Jo
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007, 6:05 PM
Hi there Jo!
Greetings from Calif. belated Easter seasonal wishes. In ref. to Tony's email. I would suggest that sending any funds to Zbar or Dar will mean they loose a lot of money in the transaction. I sent $100.00 for Masses to to be said to the Provincial in Arusha and he told me he would have to pay admin.fees of $40.00. I had to write another Ck. for the same amount and sent it to Pittsburgh, Pa. where the East Province of the Holy Ghost Fathers have an Account. I would suggest that you that you hold on to the funds - until an Account is opened here in the States. Also I will get Bishop Augustine Shayo of Zbr. to write an Appeal which you can forward to all.
God Bless,
Sincerely, Fr. Alwyn
P.S. As Tony Antao suggested it may be wise to act upon this AFTER the Re-Union in Goa where an Appeal can be made.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: FW: break down for our church.
Dear Jo,
Thanks for your e-mail.
1)The Benefiaciary name :
ST.JOSEPH CHURCH RENOVATION ZANZIBAR
Account no : 034068 TZS-TSAV-001 (Zanzibar)
Beneficiary's Bank : FBME Bank Limited
Dar es Salaam, Tazania
Swift : FBMETZTZ
2) The St.Joseph Renovation is in Zanzibar not Dar es Salaam.
3) Account number is in Zanzibar, because the head office for Federal Bank is in Dar es Salaam that it why you will see Dar but the account number is in Zanzibar for those who send any telegraphic transfer through this bank it has to go to the head office in Dar first and automatically the money will be transferred the account in Zanzibar as they have a branch Bank here in Zanzibar and the account number to deposit the money is 034068TZS-TSAV-001.
Nothing Much.
Kind regards,
Tony madeira
Subject: Re: FW: break down for our church.
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:05:34 -0700 (PDT)
Tony:
I was looking at the account info. you sent for money transfer and have a few questions:
1. You have the name of the beneficiary as:
St. Joseph Church Renovation - you haven't specified that it is for the Zanzibar Church - the Dar Church is also named the same.
2. Please confirm that the account is at the:
FBME Bank Limited in Daressalaam (why isn't the money collected in a bank in Zanzibar)
3. Please confirm that the account number is: 034068 TZS TSAV - 001
I would like to transfer some money from an account in Daressalaam to the bank that is collecting for the renovation. That's why I need this clarification.
Thanks.
Jo
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From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: PLEASE HELP TO RENOVATE OUR CHURCH,PLEASE HEAR A CRY OF OUR BISHOP
To: "al fur"
Date: Monday, March 5, 2007, 7:19 PM
Fr. Alwyn:
Please send me the address of where I can send a check for the renovation of the Cathedral on Zanzibar; and also, please let me know who to make out the check to.
Thanks,
Jo
From: tony madeira
Subject: RE: Fwd: Cathedral Restoration
Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 7:02 AM
Hi Jo,,
Thank you for you support those who can help our church blessining will go to their entire families.
regs tony
Subject: Fwd: Cathedral Restoration
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:14:31 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:13:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: "j.birkmeyer"
Subject: Cathedral Restoration
To: SJCSZAN
This information has been posted on this site because the Cathedral was/is a place of worship for many of the members of this forum.
St. Joseph's Cathedral in Zanzibar is the oldest Church in East Africa. The Cathedral was designed by the same architect who designed the Notre Dame Basilica at Marseilles, France. French missionaries built St Joseph's between 1893 and 1898. The twin spires of St Joseph can be seen from any elevated point in town and it is one of the first sights that travelers see when the ferry arrives in Zanzibar.
The building is greatly in need of repair. Because of its historical value, the government has placed certain restrictions on the work. It will be extensive and will require technical competence.
A committee has been formed in Zanzibar to oversee the restoration efforts. The cost of the repair for the roofing has been estimated at 128,000 Euros.
For more information on how you can be involved in the efforts to restore this historic edifice, please contact:
Tony Madeira
tonykosh@hotmail.com
Sans MS"
or
Fr. Alwyn Furtado
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Dear Jo,
Thanks for your e-mail.
1)The Benefiaciary name :
ST.JOSEPH CHURCH RENOVATION ZANZIBAR
Account no : 034068 TZS-TSAV-001 (Zanzibar)
Beneficiary's Bank : FBME Bank Limited
Dar es Salaam, Tazania
Swift : FBMETZTZ
2) The St.Joseph Renovation is in Zanzibar not Dar es Salaam.
3) Account number is in Zanzibar, because the head office for Federal Bank is in Dar es Salaam that it why you will see Dar but the account number is in Zanzibar for those who send any telegraphic transfer through this bank it has to go to the head office in Dar first and automatically the money will be transferred the account in Zanzibar as they have a branch Bank here in Zanzibar and the account number to deposit the money is 034068TZS-TSAV-001.
Nothing Much.
Kind regards,
Tony madeira
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From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: Re: FW: break down for our church.
To: >"tony madeira"
Cc: "alwyn furtado" Tony Antao"
Date: Saturday, April 28, 2007, 12:05 PM
Tony:
I was looking at the account info. you sent for money transfer and have a few questions:
1. You have the name of the beneficiary as:
St. Joseph Church Renovation - you haven't specified that it is for the Zanzibar Church - the Dar Church is also named the same.
2. Please confirm that the account is at the:
FBME Bank Limited in Daressalaam (why isn't the money collected in a bank in Zanzibar)
3. Please confirm that the account number is: 034068 TZS TSAV - 001
I would like to transfer some money from an account in Daressalaam to the bank that is collecting for the renovation. That's why I need this clarification.
Thanks.
Jo
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Date: Saturday, April 28, 2007, 12:10 AM
From: "Tony De Nazareth"
To:
CC:
Subject: Church restoration
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:28:10 +0100
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Hello Tony
I am very pleased and grateful for your efforts in the restoration of the church. St Joseph's is part of me and I recall very fondly my time as a Church boy. I can still visualise seeing the roof from my home every time I looked out of our window. When I was in Zanzibar last October I made a point of looking at the ceiling and I suspected there was a problem.
My dad loved the Church as we all did. I would like to do something for the Church in his memory. When your plans for raising the funds are in place please contact me again and I will committ myself to donating at least 1% of the sum needed.
Please let me know how things are progressing and if there is anything I can do in thev meantime. I hope you can persuade our SJCS gathering in Goa next year to make a special collection for the Church.
Father Alwyn are you Lenny's or Peter 's brother? I know I mix the two but hello all the same. I hope I see you both in Goa.
Best wishes
Anthony Nazareth
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Subject: Re: Fw: St Joseph's Cathedral restoration
Date: Thursday, April 19, 2007, 10:28 AM
Thanks Tony for your prompt reply.
I was wondering if Bosco Moniz could collect the donations here.
It's tough on my side as I am overwhelmed with worries....which includes how to remit to my brother who has CFS as no help is available for his kind of illness and he too in in dire financial stress.
But I do want to send a little something...and I'm sure there are many like me.
Let me see what I can do for Our Zanzibar Church.
God Bless,
Cels
Madeira wrote:
Well, we have not appointed any body to collect any funds for the St Joesph Church, there is an account whichsent to you its opeaned in the name of St Joesph Church you can send it direct and a note to us then we will issue you a receipt and not forgetting your full adress please as so the committee will send you a receipt for you kind denotation .
The reason we do not want to have some one to collect the denotations is because of confusion .
1: Then its a problem to know who has donated and the Church will be happy to know the person as the Bishop is going to say a mass for all those who have helped us this is a though time for us as its heavy rains and the renovation for the first stage has started and its to save our one and only beautiful Church. As you all know its less then 1% of Christians in the isles so I don’t need to explain you much but you will understand what I am seining.
2: There has been a problem in past in the collections of our Church epically to chose some one. The St Joseph committee has decided to ask all love one to donate direct from bank to bank to the account direct and we will ensure you denotations goes for the repair of the Church.
3, for those of you who are not aware of the committee members there are,
Mrs Alice Salim,
Mr Iggi Moniz
Mr Anton Gomes
Mr Richerd Babtisa
Mr Raymond Martins
Mr Tony Madeira
Nothing much god bless our st joesph church and god bless zanzibar.
regs tony
Subject: St Joseph's Cathedral restoration
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:31:12 -0400 (EDT)
Is there anybody in Canada or UK who is appointed to collect the funds.
Pls let me know.
Thanks,
Cels
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From: tony madeira
Subject: RE: St Joseph's Cathedral restoration
Date: Thursday, April 19, 2007, 1:27 AM
Hi Cels,
Well, we have not appointed any body to collect any funds for the St Joesph Church, there is an account which sent to you its opened in the name of St Joesph Church you can send it direct and a note to us then we will issue you a receipt and not forfeiting your full address please as so the committee will send you a receipt for you kind denotation .
The reason we do not want to have some one to collect the denotations is because of confusion .
1: Then its a problem to know who has donated and the Church will be happy to know the person as the Bishop is going to say a mass for all those who have helped us this is a though time for us as its heavy rains and the renovation for the first stage has started and its to save our one and only beautiful Church. As you all know its less then 1% of Christians in the isles so I don’t need to explain you much but you will understand what I am seining.
2: There has been a problem in past in the collections of our Church epically to chose some one. The St Joseph committee has decided to ask all love one to donate direct from bank to bank to the account direct and we will ensure you denotations goes for the repair of the Church.
3, for those of you who are not aware of the committee members there are,
Mrs Alice Salim,
Mr Iggi Moniz
Mr Anton Gomes
Mr Richerd Babtisa
Mr Raymond Martins
Mr Tony Madeira
Nothing much god bless our st joesph church and god bless zanzibar.
regs tony
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From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:34 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
This is what I had prepared to post but I didn't want to have another fight with Karpal or have him accuse me of sabotaging the reunion committee's efforts.
Perhaps if you post this he might be more inclined to accept it. Then when people contact you, you can email them the details of the renovation and ask them to send you the donations. I think if you ask for donations publicly you might not get any response - we have found that most of our members don't like to dig deep into their pockets.
Tony Madeira is on the committee that is overseeing this. He has recommended a bank to bank transfer but he also said that he would be happy to take the checks and deposit them himself. I just thought if someone here would be responsible for collecting and then doing a bank transfer it would make things easier for the donors.
This information has been posted on this site because the Cathedral was a place of worship for many of the members of this forum.
St. Joseph's Cathedral is the oldest Church in East Africa. The Cathedral was designed by the same architect who designed the Notre Dame Basilica at Marseilles, France. French missionaries built St Joseph's between 1893 and 1898. The twin spires of St Joseph can be seen from any elevated point in town and it is one of the first sights that travelers see when the ferry arrives in Zanzibar.
The building is greatly in need of repair. Because of its historical value, the government has placed certain restrictions on the work. It will be extensive and will require technical competence.
A committee that has been formed in Zanzibar to oversee the restoration. For more information on how you can be involved in restoration of beautiful, historic building, please contact:
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
thanks for the explanation. I did put the request on T-Goan. I got one response and that was the husband of a teacher who taught us at SJCS. No one responded to the request.
I have been reading a lot on Istanbul, Turkey and the magnificent st.Sophia cathedral. This is a church built by Emperor Constantinopal and his son Justin. They built this Byzantine church and then the Turks invaded and captured the church. At first they kept it as a church; but the Turk leader died. It was converted to a mosque and now it is a museum. I mention this because we have a beautiful gothic church in the heart of Zanzibar, 95% Muslim. Something has to be done to preserve this church just like the St.Sophia cathedral in Istanbul. This is history and I am afraid if something is not done, we will loose it.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
___________________________________
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
This message is intended for designated recipients only. If you have received this message in error, please delete the original and all copies and notify the sender immediately. Federal law prohibits the disclosure or other use of this information.
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:48 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado; Tony Madeira
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
In November 2006, when I posted a call for funds for Lloyd's project on our school site, Karpal, Head of the Reunion 2008 Committee, accused me of trying to undermine the efforts of the Goa 2008 Committee. Karpal felt that I was encouraging people not to give to the "Nuns' Fund". I am still quite angry that I was accused without any basis for the accusation. I tried to explain that I hadn't been aware that your fundraising was a 3 year plan, and just what the funds were going to be used for. ... and if you go back and check the messages you will see that you explained all of this for the first time, AFTER my message about Lloyd's project.
I decided then, as owner and moderator of the site, that it seemed safe that ONLY solicitations for the Nuns' Fund would be posted on this site. No other call for money will be posted on this site until after the next reunion. I don't want to get into an altercation again with anyone.
You should also have noticed that soon after I received a note about the Church Renovation (in Feb), there were several posts encouraging people to subscribe to the t-goan site for Goan and Catholic information. If you go to the home page on the SJCSZ forum you will see this is in the introductory message too. I will continue to remind the members to do this.
Now you know why your posting of "a good cause" never made it on.
Jo
"Antao, Tony" <
wrote
I put this request on the SJCS website; but it was not allowed for reasons that I do not understand.Over 95% of the students who went to the SJCS were members of this church. I see stupid stuff being discussed and entered on the website; but a good cause like this is not allowed is hard to understand.
I have no problem accepting donations and sending it to fr. alwyn; but it is time consuming to send request to every person. I felt the SJCS website was a good vehicle to get the information to all and not the Tanzania Goan website.; but those who control the web site for SJCS do not see it fit to be allowed.
so if you can get this request out to all and send the funds to me; i will collect it and send it to fr. alwyn.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
___________________________________
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
This message is intended for designated recipients only. If you have received this message in error, please delete the original and all copies and notify the sender immediately. Federal law prohibits the disclosure or other use of this information.
From: j.birkmeyer [mailto:jbirkmeyer@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
al fur wrote:
From: al fur
To: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000;}
THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
==============================
From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "Antao, Tony" Date: Thursday, April 5, 2007, 11:33 PM
Tony:
This is what I had prepared to post but I didn't want to have another fight with Karpal or have him accuse me of sabotaging the reunion committee's efforts.
Perhaps if you post this he might be more inclined to accept it. Then when people contact you, you can email them the details of the renovation and ask them to send you the donations. I think if you ask for donations publicly you might not get any response - we have found that most of our members don't like to dig deep into their pockets.
Tony Madeira is on the committee that is overseeing this. He has recommended a bank to bank transfer but he also said that he would be happy to take the checks and deposit them himself. I just thought if someone here would be responsible for collecting and then doing a bank transfer it would make things easier for the donors.
This information has been posted on this site because the Cathedral was a place of worship for many of the members of this forum.
St. Joseph's Cathedral is the oldest Church in East Africa. The Cathedral was designed by the same architect who designed the Notre Dame Basilica at Marseilles, France. French missionaries built St Joseph's between 1893 and 1898. The twin spires of St Joseph can be seen from any elevated point in town and it is one of the first sights that travelers see when the ferry arrives in Zanzibar.
The building is greatly in need of repair. Because of its historical value, the government has placed certain restrictions on the work. It will be extensive and will require technical competence.
A committee that has been formed in Zanzibar to oversee the restoration. For more information on how you can be involved in restoration of beautiful, historic building, please contact:
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
Thanks for the explanation. I did put the request on T-Goan. I got one response and that was the husband of a teacher who taught us at SJCS. No one responded to the request.
I have been reading a lot on Istanbul, Turkey and the magnificent st.Sophia cathedral. This is a church built by Emperor Constantinopal and his son Justin. They built this Byzantine church and then the Turks invaded and captured the church. At first they kept it as a church; but the Turk leader died. It was converted to a mosque and now it is a museum. I mention this because we have a beautiful gothic church in the heart of Zanzibar, 95% Muslim. Something has to be done to preserve this church just like the St.Sophia cathedral in Istanbul. This is history and I am afraid if something is not done, we will loose it.
______________________________
From: jo
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:48 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado; Tony Madeira
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
In November 2006, when I posted a call for funds for Lloyd's project on our school site, Karpal, Head of the Reunion 2008 Committee, accused me of trying to undermine the efforts of the Goa 2008 Committee. Karpal felt that I was encouraging people not to give to the "Nuns' Fund". I am still quite angry that I was accused without any basis for the accusation. I tried to explain that I hadn't been aware that your fundraising was a 3 year plan, and just what the funds were going to be used for. ... and if you go back and check the messages you will see that you explained all of this for the first time, AFTER my message about Lloyd's project.
I decided then, as owner and moderator of the site, that it seemed safe that ONLY solicitations for the Nuns' Fund would be posted on this site. No other call for money will be posted on this site until after the next reunion. I don't want to get into an altercation again with anyone.
You should also have noticed that soon after I received a note about the Church Renovation (in Feb), there were several posts encouraging people to subscribe to the t-goan site for Goan and Catholic information. If you go to the home page on the SJCSZ forum you will see this is in the introductory message too. I will continue to remind the members to do this.
Now you know why your posting of "a good cause" never made it on.
Jo
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
I put this request on the SJCS website; but it was not allowed for reasons that I do not understand.Over 95% of the students who went to the SJCS were members of this church. I see stupid stuff being discussed and entered on the website; but a good cause like this is not allowed is hard to understand.
I have no problem accepting donations and sending it to fr. alwyn; but it is time consuming to send request to every person. I felt the SJCS website was a good vehicle to get the information to all and not the Tanzania Goan website.; but those who control the web site for SJCS do not see it fit to be allowed.
so if you can get this request out to all and send the funds to me; i will collect it and send it to fr. alwyn.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
= = = = =
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
al fur wrote:
From: al fur
To: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000
HI THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
= = = = = = = =
From: Antao, Tony
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "j.birkmeyer"
Date: Thursday, April 5, 2007, 2:06 PM
thanks for the explanation. I did put the request on T-Goan. I got one response and that was the husband of a teacher who taught us at SJCS. No one responded to the request.
I have been reading a lot on Istanbul, Turkey and the magnificent st.Sophia cathedral. This is a church built by Emperor Constantinopal and his son Justin. They built this Byzantine church and then the Turks invaded and captured the church. At first they kept it as a church; but the Turk leader died. It was converted to a mosque and now it is a museum. I mention this because we have a beautiful gothic church in the heart of Zanzibar, 95% Muslim. Something has to be done to preserve this church just like the St.Sophia cathedral in Istanbul. This is history and I am afraid if something is not done, we will loose it.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:48 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado; Tony Madeira
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
In November 2006, when I posted a call for funds for Lloyd's project on our school site, Karpal, Head of the Reunion 2008 Committee, accused me of trying to undermine the efforts of the Goa 2008 Committee. Karpal felt that I was encouraging people not to give to the "Nuns' Fund". I am still quite angry that I was accused without any basis for the accusation. I tried to explain that I hadn't been aware that your fundraising was a 3 year plan, and just what the funds were going to be used for. ... and if you go back and check the messages you will see that you explained all of this for the first time, AFTER my message about Lloyd's project.
I decided then, as owner and moderator of the site, that it seemed safe that ONLY solicitations for the Nuns' Fund would be posted on this site. No other call for money will be posted on this site until after the next reunion. I don't want to get into an altercation again with anyone.
You should also have noticed that soon after I received a note about the Church Renovation (in Feb), there were several posts encouraging people to subscribe to the t-goan site for Goan and Catholic information. If you go to the home page on the SJCSZ forum you will see this is in the introductory message too. I will continue to remind the members to do this.
Now you know why your posting of "a good cause" never made it on.
Jo
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
I put this request on the SJCS website; but it was not allowed for reasons that I do not understand.Over 95% of the students who went to the SJCS were members of this church. I see stupid stuff being discussed and entered on the website; but a good cause like this is not allowed is hard to understand.
I have no problem accepting donations and sending it to fr. alwyn; but it is time consuming to send request to every person. I felt the SJCS website was a good vehicle to get the information to all and not the Tanzania Goan website.; but those who control the web site for SJCS do not see it fit to be allowed.
so if you can get this request out to all and send the funds to me; i will collect it and send it to fr. alwyn.
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
This message is intended for designated recipients only. If you have received this message in error, please delete the original and all copies and notify the sender immediately. Federal law prohibits the disclosure or other use of this information.
From: j.birkmeyer [mailto:jbirkmeyer@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
al fur
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000
THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
=============================
From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "Antao, Tony"
Date: Thursday, April 5, 2007, 1:47 PM
Tony:
In November 2006, when I posted a call for funds for Lloyd's project on our school site, Karpal, Head of the Reunion 2008 Committee, accused me of trying to undermine the efforts of the Goa 2008 Committee. Karpal felt that I was encouraging people not to give to the "Nuns' Fund". I am still quite angry that I was accused without any basis for the accusation. I tried to explain that I hadn't been aware that your fundraising was a 3 year plan, and just what the funds were going to be used for. ... and if you go back and check the messages you will see that you explained all of this for the first time, AFTER my message about Lloyd's project.
I decided then, as owner and moderator of the site, that it seemed safe that ONLY solicitations for the Nuns' Fund would be posted on this site. No other call for money will be posted on this site until after the next reunion. I don't want to get into an altercation again with anyone.
You should also have noticed that soon after I received a note about the Church Renovation (in Feb), there were several posts encouraging people to subscribe to the t-goan site for Goan and Catholic information. If you go to the home page on the SJCSZ forum you will see this is in the introductory message too. I will continue to remind the members to do this.
Now you know why your posting of "a good cause" never made it on.
Jo
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
I put this request on the SJCS website; but it was not allowed for reasons that I do not understand.Over 95% of the students who went to the SJCS were members of this church. I see stupid stuff being discussed and entered on the website; but a good cause like this is not allowed is hard to understand.
I have no problem accepting donations and sending it to fr. alwyn; but it is time consuming to send request to every person. I felt the SJCS website was a good vehicle to get the information to all and not the Tanzania Goan website.; but those who control the web site for SJCS do not see it fit to be allowed.
so if you can get this request out to all and send the funds to me; i will collect it and send it to fr. alwyn.
______________________________
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
al fur wrote:
From: al fur
To: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000
THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
===============================
From: Antao, Tony
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "j.birkmeyer"
Cc: "alwyn furtado"
Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2007, 8:35 AM
I put this information on the Tanzania Goan website. There was one response and he is a goan from Dar. He sent me pictures of the bad state condition of the church. so zanzibaris do not read the Tanzania Goan website site. It is read by people who lived in the mainland.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
___________________________________
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
This message is intended for designated recipients only. If you have received this message in error, please delete the original and all copies and notify the sender immediately. Federal law prohibits the disclosure or other use of this information.
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
al fur wrote:
From: al fur
To: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000
HI THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
To:
CC:
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira
wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
===============================
From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "tony antao"
Cc: "alwyn furtado"
Date: Monday, April 2, 2007, 10:49 PM
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
To: "tony madeira"
Date: Friday, March 30, 2007, 8:08 AM
Can I put this information out on the Tanzanian Goan Forum?
tony madeira wrote:
hi jo,
well i think some people do not want to enclose how much they donated so i think the easy way to send is a bank transfer direct to the account in which i have given you the attach details or write a cheque in the name of the account opeaned and post it to us you can use my box number and it will be deposited in the st joesph church renovation with a recipt .
my box number is : tony madeira
Tony Madeira
p o box 251
Zanzibar
Tanzania
=============================
From: tony madeira
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
To:
Cc:
Date: Friday, March 30, 2007, 5:14 AM
hi jo,
well i think some people do not want to enclose how much they donated so i think the easy way to send is a bank transfer direct to the account in which i have given you the attach details or write a cheque in the name of the account opeaned and post it to us you can use my box number and it will be deposited in the st joesph church renovation with a recipt .
my box number is : tony madeira
Tony Madeira
p o box 251
Zanzibar
Tanzania
==========================
From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
To: "tony madeira"
Cc:
Date: Thursday, March 29, 2007, 10:41 PM
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
=================================
From: tony madeira
Subject: the st joesphchurch renovations
To:
Cc:
Date: Thursday, March 29, 2007, 10:10 AM
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
==============================
From: tony madeira
Subject: FW: Fwd: PLEASE HELP TO RENOVATE OUR CHURCH,PLEASE HEAR A CRY OF OUR BISHOP
To:
Date: Thursday, March 15, 2007, 8:38 AM
Hi Jo,
well just in short this sunday there will be a committe which the bishop will anounce offical in churchwith about seven goans and the rest 5 will be locals includining a priest also you can wait as there is an account which is opeaned called the revnovation of the church in which after the church anounces the names then i will informe you who is incharge and also there will be a bank details for those who want to send the money direct its bank to bank wait and a recipt will be issued to you eighter scaned on e mail or posted to respective donners, i informe you .
regs tony
===========================
From: al fur
Subject: Re: FW: PLEASE HELP TO RENOVATE OUR CHURCH,PLEASE HEAR A CRY OF OUR BISHOP
To
Date: Monday, January 22, 2007, 11:37 PM
Hi There Tony,
Greetings from Calif. I would like to assure everyone that Bishop Augustine Shao is doing a terrific job in Zanizibar. My last visit there was three years ago and hope to visit again with some friends this July/August. His School programme on the Island is a real challenge as we see the First Secondary Catholic School coming up since the Revolution. Last year when he visited California we arranged for him to speak at St. Christopher's School in San Jose and money was raised for his School programme. I believe that the students here are enthusiastic about this programme and continue raising funds here. This is a major part of the Evangelization programme.Let's not forget we benefited from it in the past. So now let's face the Renovation of our cathedral in which so many of us celebrated the Sacramental and Prayer life of the Church, and where we received the Sacraments of Initiation - Baptism, Confirmation and Eucharist and some even Marriage. No doubt through the years the Masika rains and time have done much damage and repairs are much needed and prohibitively expensive. Let's all pitch in for the repairs to the Cathedral the cradle of our spiritual life. So Tony! form a Finance Committee with Bishop Shao's approval, which will be accountable for funds from abroad and we will do what we can from this part of the world. Lets all meet the needs of the present to build for the future and leave the past alone. His blessings will continue to be bounteous to us - He is never outdone in generosity.
God bless. Fr. Al Furtado C.S.Sp.
===========================
From: Antao, Tony
Subject: RE: Z'bar
To: "j.birkmeyer" "Lloyd Rebeiro"
Date: Sunday, December 10, 2006, 2:25 PM
I am very very familiar with this project by the archbishop of Zanzibar. Fr. Alwyn Furtado has been very active in this project and is a good friend of the archbishop.The archbishop visits the USA regualrly to raise funds and has good support here in the USA. He recently spoke at a convention in Washington D.C. He has good connections in the USA.
-----Original Message-----
From: j.birkmeyer [mailto:jbirkmeyer@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sun 12/10/2006 12:30 PM
To: Lloyd Rebeiro; Antao, Tony
Cc:
Subject: Fwd: Z'bar
Thought you both might be interested in what the Archdiocese is doing in ZNZ although this is not run by the Sisters of the Precious Blood.
Cels wrote:
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 23:27:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Cels
Subject: Z'bar
To: Jonita Birkmeyer
Check this website
http://www.dioceseofzanzibar.org/ChezuWisCtr.htm
===================================
From: antonio antao
Subject: Re: [SJCSZanzibar] Cathedral Restoration
To: "j.birkmeyer"
Date: Monday, March 17, 2008, 7:53 PM
ok
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 4:06 PM
Subject: Fwd: [SJCSZanzibar] Cathedral Restoration
Tony:
This is what I had posted a year ago. When you get the OK from Tony M and you know what the breakdown for the various repairs are, we could repost this message with the updates.
Jo
"j.birkmeyer" wrote:
To: SJCSZAN
From: "j.birkmeyer"
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:13:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SJCSZanzibar] Cathedral Restoration
This information has been posted on this site because the Cathedral was/is a place of worship for many of the members of this forum.
St. Joseph's Cathedral in Zanzibar is the oldest Church in East Africa. The Cathedral was designed by the same architect who designed the Notre Dame Basilica at Marseilles, France. French missionaries built St Joseph's between 1893 and 1898. The twin spires of St Joseph can be seen from any elevated point in town and it is one of the first sights that travelers see when the ferry arrives in Zanzibar.
The building is greatly in need of repair. Because of its historical value, the government has placed certain restrictions on the work. It will be extensive and will require technical competence.
A committee has been formed in Zanzibar to oversee the restoration efforts. The cost of the repair for the roofing has been estimated at 128,000 Euros.
For more information on how you can be involved in the efforts to restore this historic edifice, please contact:
Tony Madeira
or
Fr. Alwyn Furtado
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
==============================
On Sun, 3/16/08, antonio antao
wrote:
From: antonio antao
Subject: Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
To: "tony Madeira
Date: Sunday, March 16, 2008, 8:43 PM
Tony Madeira:
I notice that Benito and his group are trying to raise funds for the restoration of our beautiful St.Joseph Church in Zanzibar. I am willing to help in this noble cause and work with the group here in the USA. Let me know how this committee is being arranged and doing the fund raising etc.
On another note, I recently came from a vacation in Istanbul,Turkey and saw in the Islamic city, the beautiful church that was the Pearl of the Eastern Catholic church-Hagha Sophia-Also called St.Sophia Catherdal. It was converted to a mosque and now is a museum and is being restored. And it got me thinking of our gothic church in zanzibar. We must do everything to preserve and restore it until UNESCO provides fund etc.
Let me know and give me the green light to go ahead. I saw Fr. Alwyn in San Francisco last month and he was very passionate about saving the church.Over 95% of the graduates from the St. Joseph Covenent school worshipped in this church and provided us with good support. Hope we can ask them all to help.We must save the house of our Catholic Faith.
----- Original Message -----
From: tony madeira
To: astridleo@btinternet.com ; mmdacunha@gmail.com ; johnbc@dircon.co.uk ; bvents@aol.com ; aantao@wi.rr.com ; jbirkmeyer@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 7:20 AM
Subject: FW: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
From: malaika99@hotmail.com
To: tonykosh@hotmail.com; stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:02:35 +0000
Dear Tony,
Thanks for your email re the above Renovation Committee for St. Joseph's Cathedral.
This is a very noble effort on the part of all who are volunteering and no doubt
the sacrifice of their Time, Effort and Donations will be well rewarded by the Lord.
St. Joseph's Cathedral is where we received some, if not all, of the Sacramental graces of Baptism, Eucharist, Confirmation and Marriage. Furthermore, St. Joseph's School only existed because of the Church, as Education was part of the Missionary endeavour of the Holy Ghost Fathers based on the injunction of Christ:'Go and Teach...'.
From this part of the World we will do the best we can to raise Funds for this
noble effort. Furthermore if an effort could be made by the Committee to seek help from
other sources to have St. Joseph's Cathedral declared as a 'Historical Monument' as
the Anglican Church is, then all the necessary funds would come from the United Nations
Historical and Environmental Fund. However,this is for now may be only a dream away. For the present we would have to depend on our own effort. I will do all I can from this end to help in the effort of fundraising.
God bless. Keep the info. coming.
Fr. Al
Fr. Alwyn Furtado C.S.Sp.
St. Mark's Church, 325 Marine View, BELMONT, CA. 94002.
From:
To:
Subject: FW: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:35:11 +0300
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From: BVENTS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:19:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
To: stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com; tonykosh@hotmail.com
CC: astridleo@btinternet.com; joedelord@hotmail.com; machado@freenetname.co.uk; info@jbcoutinho.com
Dear Anthony cc: For the attention of Tony Madeira - re my mail sent to you yesterday.
Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Introducing myself, I am Benito De Souza, ex-student of St. Joseph's Convent School Zanzibar, born in Zanzibar and it will always remain as my home.
Taking note of the current condition of St. Joseph's RC Church, we are forming a committee to help raise funds to support the project in restoring our church to full strength and bring back the pride to our RC members still living in Zanzibar.
Unfortunately some of us were committed in promoting SJCS Zanzibar Reunion 2008 which was held in Goa, and now that is all over, we want to put some effort into working alongside your team to help raise funds to get all the work necessary done as soon as possible and perhaps in phases starting with the most important work (roof) done first. (We have seen the scaffolding erected and work being carried out but do nor know the latest position).
Very much appreciate if you could kindly advise who are your team members working on this project. Who is the first point of contact to provide up-to-date information on what needs to be done, costs and availability of builders. Most important the time scales for each job.
If you have available costs for work to be done, either entire church or each part in stages, we would very much appreciate you forward as soon as possible.
Right now we are putting a team together and any first hand up-to-date information will be very useful. Once we have confirmed our team members, we will let you know.
I look forward to hearing from you,and in the meantime you are assured we will do all we can to assist, and in turn we need your co-operation in posting us details as requested.
Also appreciate if you could keep us advised on the current financial position, e.g. Is work currently still going on, and are there funds to keep progressing?
Many thanks.
Benito de Souza
(Team member supporting St. Joseph's Church Zbar).
======================================================
Subject: Email Address of the Renovation of St. Joseph's Cathedral Zanzibar
Dear Office Bearers
Kindly be informed that the official email address for all correspondance concerning the renovation works on the Cathedral is as follows
stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Thanking you in advance for your kind co-operation.
Yours Sincerely
Anthony M. Gomes
Secretary
===============================
From:
To:
Subject: RE: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:02:35 +0000
Dear Tony,
Thanks for your email re the above Renovation Committee for St. Joseph's Cathedral.
This is a very noble effort on the part of all who are volunteering and no doubt
the sacrifice of their Time, Effort and Donations will be well rewarded by the Lord.
St. Joseph's Cathedral is where we received some, if not all, of the Sacramental graces of Baptism, Eucharist, Confirmation and Marriage. Furthermore, St. Joseph's School only existed because of the Church, as Education was part of the Missionary endeavour of the Holy Ghost Fathers based on the injunction of Christ:'Go and Teach...'.
From this part of the World we will do the best we can to raise Funds for this
noble effort. Furthermore if an effort could be made by the Committee to seek help from
other sources to have St. Joseph's Cathedral declared as a 'Historical Monument' as
the Anglican Church is, then all the necessary funds would come from the United Nations
Historical and Environmental Fund. However,this is for now may be only a dream away. For the present we would have to depend on our own effort. I will do all I can from this end to help in the effort of fundraising.
God bless. Keep the info. coming.
Fr. Al
Fr. Alwyn Furtado C.S.Sp.
St. Mark's Church, 325 Marine View, BELMONT, CA. 94002.
From:
To:
Subject: FW: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:35:11 +0300
From: BVENTS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:19:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
To: stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com; tonykosh@hotmail.com
CC: astridleo@btinternet.com; joedelord@hotmail.com; machado@freenetname.co.uk; info@jbcoutinho.com
Dear Anthony cc: For the attention of Tony Madeira - re my mail sent to you yesterday.
Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Introducing myself, I am Benito De Souza, ex-student of St. Joseph's Convent School Zanzibar, born in Zanzibar and it will always remain as my home.
Taking note of the current condition of St. Joseph's RC Church, we are forming a committee to help raise funds to support the project in restoring our church to full strength and bring back the pride to our RC members still living in Zanzibar.
Unfortunately some of us were committed in promoting SJCS Zanzibar Reunion 2008 which was held in Goa, and now that is all over, we want to put some effort into working alongside your team to help raise funds to get all the work necessary done as soon as possible and perhaps in phases starting with the most important work (roof) done first. (We have seen the scaffolding erected and work being carried out but do nor know the latest position).
Very much appreciate if you could kindly advise who are your team members working on this project. Who is the first point of contact to provide up-to-date information on what needs to be done, costs and availability of builders. Most important the time scales for each job.
If you have available costs for work to be done, either entire church or each part in stages, we would very much appreciate you forward as soon as possible.
Right now we are putting a team together and any first hand up-to-date information will be very useful. Once we have confirmed our team members, we will let you know.
I look forward to hearing from you,and in the meantime you are assured we will do all we can to assist, and in turn we need your co-operation in posting us details as requested.
Also appreciate if you could keep us advised on the current financial position, e.g. Is work currently still going on, and are there funds to keep progressing?
Many thanks.
Benito de Souza
(Team member supporting St. Joseph's Church Zbar).
======================================================
Subject: Email Address of the Renovation of St. Joseph's Cathedral Zanzibar
Dear Office Bearers
Kindly be informed that the official email address for all correspondence concerning the renovation works on the Cathedral is as follows
stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Thanking you in advance for your kind co-operation.
Yours Sincerely
Anthony M. Gomes
Secretary
=====================
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 02:17:49 -0700
From: stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Subject: Renovation Committee Members - St Joseph Cathedral Zanzibar
Hii Tony
The following is the list of the Renovation Committee members.
1. Fr. Evaristus Mushi Chairman
2. Charles Lubega Vice Chairman
3. Anthony Gomes Secretary
4. James Makale Asst. Secretary
5. Alice Salem Treasusurer
6. Richard Batista Member
7. Anthony Madeira Member
8. Raymond Martins Member
9. Ignatius Moniz Member
10. Raphael Mabagala Member
11. Enerst Kinangala Member
12. Laurian Kipeja Member
13. S.R Vincent Member
14. Fr. Manfred Mjengwa Member
15. Martin Philipo Member
Note: About the US Dollar Account No. I will advise tomorrow.
Best Regards
Anthony Gomes
=========================
Hi Tony and Benito:
I just sent you all the correspondence I had saved from 2007 and 2008 regarding this topic. I thought it might be helpful to see what was happening three years ago when the initial appeal for funds went out and understand what the problems were.
Like I said previously, I know there are many folks who are still quite skeptical about sending in donations - those that sent money for the renovation of the cemetery are still smarting for nothing having been done there; others sent in money for church renovations and have proof that the money was used for the bishop's mansion. So we have to make this collection effort is something that people will have more faith in and be willing to give, AGAIN, and be assured that, this time around, their donations will be used appropriately.
I believe that it is important to have professionals who know what they are doing be the ones who do the renovations, rather than a rag tag bunch of folks. This would give this whole project more credibility.
As Tony Nazareth's email expressed, it is important to know exactly:
- what exactly is expected to be completed in each phase of the project
- how much will be needed for each phase
- what is the time line for completion of the each phase
- how long will it take to complete the total renovation
I think it is important to be completely transparent about all this by posting all this info on the internet.
I think we should have one person per country responsible for this. This means that all donations go to that one person - this would make things less confusing. The rest of the folks can be instrumental in urging people to send in their donations. Donations should be disbursed per phase rather than the lump sum sent.
In my many conversations with Lloyd, who in his 40 years as a parish priest sent hundreds of thousand of dollars to Sr. Hildergardis for her projects in Walezo and Arusha, the money was sent out in "instalments" by the mother house in Germany where Lloyd always sent the donations he collected. When a particular project was completed, he would get pictures and a run down of all the expenses for that particular project. Then the next sum of money would be released for the next project...He not only managed to renovate Walezo but was able to help the sisters set us another leper colony near Arusha - with a hospital, and chapel. The pictures and post renovation accounting made it easier to collect for succeeding projects.
Another issue he talked about was that when he initially sent the thousands directly to the sisters, the sisters always got short changed by the banks. They'd come home with bagful of money, and which they couldn't count at the bank, only to find that they weren't given all they had expected, and then couldn't go back to bank to argue about it because the bank wouldn't believe THEY made the error. So this is another issue the donation collectors should be aware of.
So, if the committee in Zanzibar can answer Tony Nazareth's concerns, that would be a good place to start. Once we have this we can put announcements on the t-goan and our school sites to appear on a regular basis.
Just my thoughts.
Jo
From: tony antao
To: al fur Jo Birkmeyer
Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 12:25:18 PM
Subject: st. Joseph church appeal
I would like to help raise funds from folks in the USA. However, I need your help. Would you be willing to serve on a committee for USA to solicit funds for this good cause. We have Al on the west coast, we need someone on the east coast. Do you know anyone who could help. Lloyd would be a good person, but the last time I approached him, he was not willing to participate. If Joanita/Al can try to convince him, that will be nice. Otherwise someone else you know in the NY/New Jersey area will be helpful. If you have any other folks who would be good candidates to serve, let me know.
I am willing to keep the accounts and remit the money to Zanzibar. But we must wait to see if there is someone in charge at the head of this fund raising e.g. Benito etc
Would appreciate your thoughts and ideas on this as this is a very good cause to save and restore it. This is our "Santa Sophia" like the church in Turkey.
===============================
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:46:44 -0800
From: stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Subject: Email Address of the Renovation of St. Joseph's Cathedral Zanzibar
Dear Office Bearers
Kindly be informed that the official email address for all correspondence concerning the renovation works on the Cathedral is as follows
stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Thanking you in advance for your kind co-operation.
Yours Sincerely
Anthony M. Gomes
Secretary
=============================
From: al fur
Subject: Fw: With apologies - Bishop Shao,
To: "Jo Birkmeyer"
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007, 6:24 PM
This I received in Feb. It would be better to get the Bishop to write an Appeal
which can then be forwarded to all concerned. May be at the Goa reunion would be
a good time. God bless. Fr. Al
----- Original Message -----
From: Diocese of Zanzibar
To: al fur
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 5:40 AM
Subject: With apologies - Bishop Shao,
Dear Fr. Al,
Many season greetings and hope that you are doing well. I'm in receipt of a
copy of e.mail that Fr. Casmir Nyaki sent to the manager of Missionary
Spirit Travel in Arusha that you are contemplating of sending a group to
Tanzania this year.
May I assure you Al. that the Spiritans and the diocese of Zanzibar owns a
tour company in Arusha that is for tickets and tourist. I started the
company in the early 90s. but was closed in late 1998. It is now in
operation and we are indeed looking for clients who can use our facilities.
It is more active in Arusha and the costal areas, taking people to Bagamoyo,
where the Spiritans have an animation center. Sporadically, tourists come to
Zanzibar and are taken care by our faithful like Fabian and Tonny.
Very soon the company will be on the web-site and will be able to read what
it offers. Since the company is building itself we don't talk of profit yet,
but of course the future is bright. We are as well looking for partners
abroad, and you may be in the position of getting interested people to gang
with us. You are welcome Al to avail to the facilities.
Back home in Zanzibar, it is quite hot now or otherwise everything is okay.
We have just risked to start form one this year at Tomondo and we have 38
students girls and boys together. We hope to separate them once we get funds
to finish the Chejcu center. There are still some demands at Tomondo, and by
next year we will need dormitories for form two and two streams of form one.
In the primary school we still have about 35% to 40% of our Christian
children who cannot pay the fees and have to be assisted. Thank you for
being part of our struggles and may God bless you in every way.
We are as well working on our Cathedral roof. We are replacing it all. It
will cost us over 97 million Tanzanian shillings. When we get to finish it,
then the chase will remain on the walls and the Mosaic paintings. We will
for sure look for volunteers who know about Mosaic paintings. Keep us in
your prayer Al.
May God bless you during this Lenten season the season for purification and
blessing.
Fraternally in Christ,
Bishop Shao, C.S.Sp.
============================
From: al fur
Subject: re. Funds for the Church
To: Jo
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007, 6:05 PM
Hi there Jo!
Greetings from Calif. belated Easter seasonal wishes. In ref. to Tony's email. I would suggest that sending any funds to Zbar or Dar will mean they loose a lot of money in the transaction. I sent $100.00 for Masses to to be said to the Provincial in Arusha and he told me he would have to pay admin.fees of $40.00. I had to write another Ck. for the same amount and sent it to Pittsburgh, Pa. where the East Province of the Holy Ghost Fathers have an Account. I would suggest that you that you hold on to the funds - until an Account is opened here in the States. Also I will get Bishop Augustine Shayo of Zbr. to write an Appeal which you can forward to all.
God Bless,
Sincerely, Fr. Alwyn
P.S. As Tony Antao suggested it may be wise to act upon this AFTER the Re-Union in Goa where an Appeal can be made.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: FW: break down for our church.
Dear Jo,
Thanks for your e-mail.
1)The Benefiaciary name :
ST.JOSEPH CHURCH RENOVATION ZANZIBAR
Account no : 034068 TZS-TSAV-001 (Zanzibar)
Beneficiary's Bank : FBME Bank Limited
Dar es Salaam, Tazania
Swift : FBMETZTZ
2) The St.Joseph Renovation is in Zanzibar not Dar es Salaam.
3) Account number is in Zanzibar, because the head office for Federal Bank is in Dar es Salaam that it why you will see Dar but the account number is in Zanzibar for those who send any telegraphic transfer through this bank it has to go to the head office in Dar first and automatically the money will be transferred the account in Zanzibar as they have a branch Bank here in Zanzibar and the account number to deposit the money is 034068TZS-TSAV-001.
Nothing Much.
Kind regards,
Tony madeira
Subject: Re: FW: break down for our church.
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:05:34 -0700 (PDT)
Tony:
I was looking at the account info. you sent for money transfer and have a few questions:
1. You have the name of the beneficiary as:
St. Joseph Church Renovation - you haven't specified that it is for the Zanzibar Church - the Dar Church is also named the same.
2. Please confirm that the account is at the:
FBME Bank Limited in Daressalaam (why isn't the money collected in a bank in Zanzibar)
3. Please confirm that the account number is: 034068 TZS TSAV - 001
I would like to transfer some money from an account in Daressalaam to the bank that is collecting for the renovation. That's why I need this clarification.
Thanks.
Jo
====================


From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: PLEASE HELP TO RENOVATE OUR CHURCH,PLEASE HEAR A CRY OF OUR BISHOP
To: "al fur"
Date: Monday, March 5, 2007, 7:19 PM
Fr. Alwyn:
Please send me the address of where I can send a check for the renovation of the Cathedral on Zanzibar; and also, please let me know who to make out the check to.
Thanks,
Jo
From: tony madeira
Subject: RE: Fwd: Cathedral Restoration
Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 7:02 AM
Hi Jo,,
Thank you for you support those who can help our church blessining will go to their entire families.
regs tony
Subject: Fwd: Cathedral Restoration
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:14:31 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:13:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: "j.birkmeyer"
Subject: Cathedral Restoration
To: SJCSZAN
This information has been posted on this site because the Cathedral was/is a place of worship for many of the members of this forum.
St. Joseph's Cathedral in Zanzibar is the oldest Church in East Africa. The Cathedral was designed by the same architect who designed the Notre Dame Basilica at Marseilles, France. French missionaries built St Joseph's between 1893 and 1898. The twin spires of St Joseph can be seen from any elevated point in town and it is one of the first sights that travelers see when the ferry arrives in Zanzibar.
The
building is greatly in need of repair. Because of its historical value, the government has placed certain restrictions on the work. It will be extensive and will require technical competence.
A committee has been formed in Zanzibar to oversee the restoration efforts. The cost of the repair for the roofing has been estimated at 128,000 Euros.
For more information on how you can be involved in the efforts to restore this historic edifice, please contact:
Tony Madeira
tonykosh@hotmail.com
Sans MS"
or
Fr. Alwyn Furtado
malaika99@hotmail.com
=================
Dear Jo,
Thanks for your e-mail.
1)The Benefiaciary name :
ST.JOSEPH CHURCH RENOVATION ZANZIBAR
Account no : 034068 TZS-TSAV-001 (Zanzibar)
Beneficiary's Bank : FBME Bank Limited
Dar es Salaam, Tazania
Swift : FBMETZTZ
2) The St.Joseph Renovation is in Zanzibar not Dar es Salaam.
3) Account number is in Zanzibar, because the head office for Federal Bank is in Dar es Salaam that it why you will see Dar but the account number is in Zanzibar for those who send any telegraphic transfer through this bank it has to go to the head office in Dar first and automatically the money will be transferred the account in Zanzibar as they have a branch Bank here in Zanzibar and the account number to deposit the money is 034068TZS-TSAV-001.
Nothing Much.
Kind regards,
Tony madeira
====================
From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: Re: FW: break down for our church.
To: >"tony madeira"
Cc: "alwyn furtado" Tony Antao"
Date: Saturday, April 28, 2007, 12:05 PM
Tony:
I was looking at the account info. you sent for money transfer and have a few questions:
1. You have the name of the beneficiary as:
St. Joseph Church Renovation - you haven't specified that it is for the Zanzibar Church - the Dar Church is also named the same.
2. Please confirm that the account is at the:
FBME Bank Limited in Daressalaam (why isn't the money collected in a bank in Zanzibar)
3. Please confirm that the account number is: 034068 TZS TSAV - 001
I would like to transfer some money from an account in Daressalaam to the bank that is collecting for the renovation. That's why I need this clarification.
Thanks.
Jo
===================
Date: Saturday, April 28, 2007, 12:10 AM
From: "Tony De Nazareth"
To:
CC:
Subject: Church restoration
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:28:10 +0100
#AOLMsgPart_2_6d3e20d4-a68a-4243-80cc-cd1529a394a4 td{color: black;}
Hello Tony
I am very pleased and grateful for your efforts in the restoration of the church. St Joseph's is part of me and I recall very fondly my time as a Church boy. I can still visualise seeing the roof from my home every time I looked out of our window. When I was in Zanzibar last October I made a point of looking at the ceiling and I suspected there was a problem.
My dad loved the Church as we all did. I would like to do something for the Church in his memory. When your plans for raising the funds are in place please contact me again and I will committ myself to donating at least 1% of the sum needed.
Please let me know how things are progressing and if there is anything I can do in thev meantime. I hope you can persuade our SJCS gathering in Goa next year to make a special collection for the Church.
Father Alwyn are you Lenny's or Peter 's brother? I know I mix the two but hello all the same. I hope I see you both in Goa.
Best wishes
Anthony Nazareth
=============================
Subject: Re: Fw: St Joseph's Cathedral restoration
Date: Thursday, April 19, 2007, 10:28 AM
Thanks Tony for your prompt reply.
I was wondering if Bosco Moniz could collect the donations here.
It's tough on my side as I am overwhelmed with worries....which includes how to remit to my brother who has CFS as no help is available for his kind of illness and he too in in dire financial stress.
But I do want to send a little something...and I'm sure there are many like me.
Let me see what I can do for Our Zanzibar Church.
God Bless,
Cels
Madeira wrote:
Well, we have not appointed any body to collect any funds for the St Joesph Church, there is an account whichsent to you its opeaned in the name of St Joesph Church you can send it direct and a note to us then we will issue you a receipt and not forgetting your full adress please as so the committee will send you a receipt for you kind denotation .
The reason we do not want to have some one to collect the denotations is because of confusion .
1: Then its a problem to know who has donated and the Church will be happy to know the person as the Bishop is going to say a mass for all those who have helped us this is a though time for us as its heavy rains and the renovation for the first stage has started and its to save our one and only beautiful Church. As you all know its less then 1% of Christians in the isles so I don’t need to explain you much but you will understand what I am seining.
2: There has been a problem in past in the collections of our Church epically to chose some one. The St Joseph committee has decided to ask all love one to donate direct from bank to bank to the account direct and we will ensure you denotations goes for the repair of the Church.
3, for those of you who are not aware of the committee members there are,
Mrs Alice Salim,
Mr Iggi Moniz
Mr Anton Gomes
Mr Richerd Babtisa
Mr Raymond Martins
Mr Tony Madeira
Nothing much god bless our st joesph church and god bless zanzibar.
regs tony
Subject: St Joseph's Cathedral restoration
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:31:12 -0400 (EDT)
Is there anybody in Canada or UK who is appointed to collect the funds.
Pls let me know.
Thanks,
Cels
=======================
From: tony madeira
Subject: RE: St Joseph's Cathedral restoration
Date: Thursday, April 19, 2007, 1:27 AM
Hi Cels,
Well, we have not appointed any body to collect any funds for the St Joesph Church, there is an account which sent to you its opened in the name of St Joesph Church you can send it direct and a note to us then we will issue you a receipt and not forfeiting your full address please as so the committee will send you a receipt for you kind denotation .
The reason we do not want to have some one to collect the denotations is because of confusion .
1: Then its a problem to know who has donated and the Church will be happy to know the person as the Bishop is going to say a mass for all those who have helped us this is a though time for us as its heavy rains and the renovation for the first stage has started and its to save our one and only beautiful Church. As you all know its less then 1% of Christians in the isles so I don’t need to explain you much but you will understand what I am seining.
2: There has been a problem in past in the collections of our Church epically to chose some one. The St Joseph committee has decided to ask all love one to donate direct from bank to bank to the account direct and we will ensure you denotations goes for the repair of the Church.
3, for those of you who are not aware of the committee members there are,
Mrs Alice Salim,
Mr Iggi Moniz
Mr Anton Gomes
Mr Richerd Babtisa
Mr Raymond Martins
Mr Tony Madeira
Nothing much god bless our st joesph church and god bless zanzibar.
regs tony
=============================
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:34 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
This is what I had prepared to post but I didn't want to have another fight with Karpal or have him accuse me of sabotaging the reunion committee's efforts.
Perhaps if you post this he might be more inclined to accept it. Then when people contact you, you can email them the details of the renovation and ask them to send you the donations. I think if you ask for donations publicly you might not get any response - we have found that most of our members don't like to dig deep into their pockets.
Tony Madeira is on the committee that is overseeing this. He has recommended a bank to bank transfer but he also said that he would be happy to take the checks and deposit them himself. I just thought if someone here would be responsible for collecting and then doing a bank transfer it would make things easier for the donors.
This information has been posted on this site because the Cathedral was a place of worship for many of the members of this forum.
St. Joseph's Cathedral is the oldest Church in East Africa. The Cathedral was designed by the same architect who designed the Notre Dame Basilica at Marseilles, France. French missionaries built St Joseph's between 1893 and 1898. The twin spires of St Joseph can be seen from any elevated point in town and it is one of the first sights that travelers see when the ferry arrives in Zanzibar.
The building is greatly in need of repair. Because of its historical value, the government has placed certain restrictions on the work. It will be extensive and will require technical competence.
A committee that has been formed in Zanzibar to oversee the restoration. For more information on how you can be involved in restoration of beautiful, historic building, please contact:
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
thanks for the explanation. I did put the request on T-Goan. I got one response and that was the husband of a teacher who taught us at SJCS. No one responded to the request.
I have been reading a lot on Istanbul, Turkey and the magnificent st.Sophia cathedral. This is a church built by Emperor Constantinopal and his son Justin. They built this Byzantine church and then the Turks invaded and captured the church. At first they kept it as a church; but the Turk leader died. It was converted to a mosque and now it is a museum. I mention this because we have a beautiful gothic church in the heart of Zanzibar, 95% Muslim. Something has to be done to preserve this church just like the St.Sophia cathedral in Istanbul. This is history and I am afraid if something is not done, we will loose it.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
___________________________________
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
This message is intended for designated recipients only. If you have received this message in error, please delete the original and all copies and notify the sender immediately. Federal law prohibits the disclosure or other use of this information.
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:48 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado; Tony Madeira
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
In November 2006, when I posted a call for funds for Lloyd's project on our school site, Karpal, Head of the Reunion 2008 Committee, accused me of trying to undermine the efforts of the Goa 2008 Committee. Karpal felt that I was encouraging people not to give to the "Nuns' Fund". I am still quite angry that I was accused without any basis for the accusation. I tried to explain that I hadn't been aware that your fundraising was a 3 year plan, and just what the funds were going to be used for. ... and if you go back and check the messages you will see that you explained all of this for the first time, AFTER my message about Lloyd's project.
I decided then, as owner and moderator of the site, that it seemed safe that ONLY solicitations for the Nuns' Fund would be posted on this site. No other call for money will be posted on this site until after the next reunion. I don't want to get into an altercation again with anyone.
You should also have noticed that soon after I received a note about the Church Renovation (in Feb), there were several posts encouraging people to subscribe to the t-goan site for Goan and Catholic information. If you go to the home page on the SJCSZ forum you will see this is in the introductory message too. I will continue to remind the members to do this.
Now you know why your posting of "a good cause" never made it on.
Jo
"Antao, Tony" <
wrote
I put this request on the SJCS website; but it was not allowed for reasons that I do not understand.Over 95% of the students who went to the SJCS were members of this church. I see stupid stuff being discussed and entered on the website; but a good cause like this is not allowed is hard to understand.
I have no problem accepting donations and sending it to fr. alwyn; but it is time consuming to send request to every person. I felt the SJCS website was a good vehicle to get the information to all and not the Tanzania Goan website.; but those who control the web site for SJCS do not see it fit to be allowed.
so if you can get this request out to all and send the funds to me; i will collect it and send it to fr. alwyn.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
___________________________________
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
This message is intended for designated recipients only. If you have received this message in error, please delete the original and all copies and notify the sender immediately. Federal law prohibits the disclosure or other use of this information.
From: j.birkmeyer [mailto:jbirkmeyer@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
al fur wrote:
From: al fur
To: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000;}
THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
==============================
From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "Antao, Tony" Date: Thursday, April 5, 2007, 11:33 PM
Tony:
This is what I had prepared to post but I didn't want to have another fight with Karpal or have him accuse me of sabotaging the reunion committee's efforts.
Perhaps if you post this he might be more inclined to accept it. Then when people contact you, you can email them the details of the renovation and ask them to send you the donations. I think if you ask for donations publicly you might not get any response - we have found that most of our members don't like to dig deep into their pockets.
Tony Madeira is on the committee that is overseeing this. He has recommended a bank to bank transfer but he also said that he would be happy to take the checks and deposit them himself. I just thought if someone here would be responsible for collecting and then doing a bank transfer it would make things easier for the donors.
This information has been posted on this site because the Cathedral was a place of worship for many of the members of this forum.
St. Joseph's Cathedral is the oldest Church in East Africa. The Cathedral was designed by the same architect who designed the Notre Dame Basilica at Marseilles, France. French missionaries built St Joseph's between 1893 and 1898. The twin spires of St Joseph can be seen from any elevated point in town and it is one of the first sights that travelers see when the ferry arrives in Zanzibar.
The building is greatly in need of repair. Because of its historical value, the government has placed certain restrictions on the work. It will be extensive and will require technical competence.
A committee that has been formed in Zanzibar to oversee the restoration. For more information on how you can be involved in restoration of beautiful, historic building, please contact:
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
Thanks for the explanation. I did put the request on T-Goan. I got one response and that was the husband of a teacher who taught us at SJCS. No one responded to the request.
I have been reading a lot on Istanbul, Turkey and the magnificent st.Sophia cathedral. This is a church built by Emperor Constantinopal and his son Justin. They built this Byzantine church and then the Turks invaded and captured the church. At first they kept it as a church; but the Turk leader died. It was converted to a mosque and now it is a museum. I mention this because we have a beautiful gothic church in the heart of Zanzibar, 95% Muslim. Something has to be done to preserve this church just like the St.Sophia cathedral in Istanbul. This is history and I am afraid if something is not done, we will loose it.
______________________________
From: jo
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:48 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado; Tony Madeira
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
In November 2006, when I posted a call for funds for Lloyd's project on our school site, Karpal, Head of the Reunion 2008 Committee, accused me of trying to undermine the efforts of the Goa 2008 Committee. Karpal felt that I was encouraging people not to give to the "Nuns' Fund". I am still quite angry that I was accused without any basis for the accusation. I tried to explain that I hadn't been aware that your fundraising was a 3 year plan, and just what the funds were going to be used for. ... and if you go back and check the messages you will see that you explained all of this for the first time, AFTER my message about Lloyd's project.
I decided then, as owner and moderator of the site, that it seemed safe that ONLY solicitations for the Nuns' Fund would be posted on this site. No other call for money will be posted on this site until after the next reunion. I don't want to get into an altercation again with anyone.
You should also have noticed that soon after I received a note about the Church Renovation (in Feb), there were several posts encouraging people to subscribe to the t-goan site for Goan and Catholic information. If you go to the home page on the SJCSZ forum you will see this is in the introductory message too. I will continue to remind the members to do this.
Now you know why your posting of "a good cause" never made it on.
Jo
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
I put this request on the SJCS website; but it was not allowed for reasons that I do not understand.Over 95% of the students who went to the SJCS were members of this church. I see stupid stuff being discussed and entered on the website; but a good cause like this is not allowed is hard to understand.
I have no problem accepting donations and sending it to fr. alwyn; but it is time consuming to send request to every person. I felt the SJCS website was a good vehicle to get the information to all and not the Tanzania Goan website.; but those who control the web site for SJCS do not see it fit to be allowed.
so if you can get this request out to all and send the funds to me; i will collect it and send it to fr. alwyn.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
___________________________________
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
This message is intended for designated recipients only. If you have received this message in error, please delete the original and all copies and notify the sender immediately. Federal law prohibits the disclosure or other use of this information.
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
al fur wrote:
From: al fur
To: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000
#AOLMsgPart_3_5abf4435-9957-4253-99db-f60fe7a609a7 td{color: black;} #AOLMsgPart_3_5abf4435-9957-4253-99db-f60fe7a609a7 #yiv666507007 P { PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;}#AOLMsgPart_3_5abf4435-9957-4253-99db-f60fe7a609a7 #yiv666507007 {FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} HI THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
===============================
From: Antao, Tony
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "j.birkmeyer"
Date: Thursday, April 5, 2007, 2:06 PM
thanks for the explanation. I did put the request on T-Goan. I got one response and that was the husband of a teacher who taught us at SJCS. No one responded to the request.
I have been reading a lot on Istanbul, Turkey and the magnificent st.Sophia cathedral. This is a church built by Emperor Constantinopal and his son Justin. They built this Byzantine church and then the Turks invaded and captured the church. At first they kept it as a church; but the Turk leader died. It was converted to a mosque and now it is a museum. I mention this because we have a beautiful gothic church in the heart of Zanzibar, 95% Muslim. Something has to be done to preserve this church just like the St.Sophia cathedral in Istanbul. This is history and I am afraid if something is not done, we will loose it.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
___________________________________
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
This message is intended for designated recipients only. If you have received this message in error, please delete the original and all copies and notify the sender immediately. Federal law prohibits the disclosure or other use of this information.
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:48 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado; Tony Madeira
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
In November 2006, when I posted a call for funds for Lloyd's project on our school site, Karpal, Head of the Reunion 2008 Committee, accused me of trying to undermine the efforts of the Goa 2008 Committee. Karpal felt that I was encouraging people not to give to the "Nuns' Fund". I am still quite angry that I was accused without any basis for the accusation. I tried to explain that I hadn't been aware that your fundraising was a 3 year plan, and just what the funds were going to be used for. ... and if you go back and check the messages you will see that you explained all of this for the first time, AFTER my message about Lloyd's project.
I decided then, as owner and moderator of the site, that it seemed safe that ONLY solicitations for the Nuns' Fund would be posted on this site. No other call for money will be posted on this site until after the next reunion. I don't want to get into an altercation again with anyone.
You should also have noticed that soon after I received a note about the Church Renovation (in Feb), there were several posts encouraging people to subscribe to the t-goan site for Goan and Catholic information. If you go to the home page on the SJCSZ forum you will see this is in the introductory message too. I will continue to remind the members to do this.
Now you know why your posting of "a good cause" never made it on.
Jo
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
I put this request on the SJCS website; but it was not allowed for reasons that I do not understand.Over 95% of the students who went to the SJCS were members of this church. I see stupid stuff being discussed and entered on the website; but a good cause like this is not allowed is hard to understand.
I have no problem accepting donations and sending it to fr. alwyn; but it is time consuming to send request to every person. I felt the SJCS website was a good vehicle to get the information to all and not the Tanzania Goan website.; but those who control the web site for SJCS do not see it fit to be allowed.
so if you can get this request out to all and send the funds to me; i will collect it and send it to fr. alwyn.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
___________________________________
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
This message is intended for designated recipients only. If you have received this message in error, please delete the original and all copies and notify the sender immediately. Federal law prohibits the disclosure or other use of this information.
From: j.birkmeyer [mailto:jbirkmeyer@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
al fur
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000
THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
=============================
From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "Antao, Tony"
Date: Thursday, April 5, 2007, 1:47 PM
Tony:
In November 2006, when I posted a call for funds for Lloyd's project on our school site, Karpal, Head of the Reunion 2008 Committee, accused me of trying to undermine the efforts of the Goa 2008 Committee. Karpal felt that I was encouraging people not to give to the "Nuns' Fund". I am still quite angry that I was accused without any basis for the accusation. I tried to explain that I hadn't been aware that your fundraising was a 3 year plan, and just what the funds were going to be used for. ... and if you go back and check the messages you will see that you explained all of this for the first time, AFTER my message about Lloyd's project.
I decided then, as owner and moderator of the site, that it seemed safe that ONLY solicitations for the Nuns' Fund would be posted on this site. No other call for money will be posted on this site until after the next reunion. I don't want to get into an altercation again with anyone.
You should also have noticed that soon after I received a note about the Church Renovation (in Feb), there were several posts encouraging people to subscribe to the t-goan site for Goan and Catholic information. If you go to the home page on the SJCSZ forum you will see this is in the introductory message too. I will continue to remind the members to do this.
Now you know why your posting of "a good cause" never made it on.
Jo
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
I put this request on the SJCS website; but it was not allowed for reasons that I do not understand.Over 95% of the students who went to the SJCS were members of this church. I see stupid stuff being discussed and entered on the website; but a good cause like this is not allowed is hard to understand.
I have no problem accepting donations and sending it to fr. alwyn; but it is time consuming to send request to every person. I felt the SJCS website was a good vehicle to get the information to all and not the Tanzania Goan website.; but those who control the web site for SJCS do not see it fit to be allowed.
so if you can get this request out to all and send the funds to me; i will collect it and send it to fr. alwyn.
______________________________
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
al fur wrote:
From: al fur
To: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000
THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
===============================
From: Antao, Tony
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "j.birkmeyer"
Cc: "alwyn furtado"
Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2007, 8:35 AM
I put this information on the Tanzania Goan website. There was one response and he is a goan from Dar. He sent me pictures of the bad state condition of the church. so zanzibaris do not read the Tanzania Goan website site. It is read by people who lived in the mainland.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
___________________________________
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
This message is intended for designated recipients only. If you have received this message in error, please delete the original and all copies and notify the sender immediately. Federal law prohibits the disclosure or other use of this information.
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
al fur wrote:
From: al fur
To: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000
HI THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
To:
CC:
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira
wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
===============================
From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "tony antao"
Cc: "alwyn furtado"
Date: Monday, April 2, 2007, 10:49 PM
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
To: "tony madeira"
Date: Friday, March 30, 2007, 8:08 AM
Can I put this information out on the Tanzanian Goan Forum?
tony madeira wrote:
hi jo,
well i think some people do not want to enclose how much they donated so i think the easy way to send is a bank transfer direct to the account in which i have given you the attach details or write a cheque in the name of the account opeaned and post it to us you can use my box number and it will be deposited in the st joesph church renovation with a recipt .
my box number is : tony madeira
Tony Madeira
p o box 251
Zanzibar
Tanzania
=============================
From: tony madeira
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
To:
Cc:
Date: Friday, March 30, 2007, 5:14 AM
hi jo,
well i think some people do not want to enclose how much they donated so i think the easy way to send is a bank transfer direct to the account in which i have given you the attach details or write a cheque in the name of the account opeaned and post it to us you can use my box number and it will be deposited in the st joesph church renovation with a recipt .
my box number is : tony madeira
Tony Madeira
p o box 251
Zanzibar
Tanzania
==========================
From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
To: "tony madeira"
Cc:
Date: Thursday, March 29, 2007, 10:41 PM
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
=================================
From: tony madeira
Subject: the st joesphchurch renovations
To:
Cc:
Date: Thursday, March 29, 2007, 10:10 AM
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
==============================
From: tony madeira
Subject: FW: Fwd: PLEASE HELP TO RENOVATE OUR CHURCH,PLEASE HEAR A CRY OF OUR BISHOP
To:
Date: Thursday, March 15, 2007, 8:38 AM
Hi Jo,
well just in short this sunday there will be a committe which the bishop will anounce offical in churchwith about seven goans and the rest 5 will be locals includining a priest also you can wait as there is an account which is opeaned called the revnovation of the church in which after the church anounces the names then i will informe you who is incharge and also there will be a bank details for those who want to send the money direct its bank to bank wait and a recipt will be issued to you eighter scaned on e mail or posted to respective donners, i informe you .
regs tony
===========================
From: al fur
Subject: Re: FW: PLEASE HELP TO RENOVATE OUR CHURCH,PLEASE HEAR A CRY OF OUR BISHOP
To
Date: Monday, January 22, 2007, 11:37 PM
Hi There Tony,
Greetings from Calif. I would like to assure everyone that Bishop Augustine Shao is doing a terrific job in Zanizibar. My last visit there was three years ago and hope to visit again with some friends this July/August. His School programme on the Island is a real challenge as we see the First Secondary Catholic School coming up since the Revolution. Last year when he visited California we arranged for him to speak at St. Christopher's School in San Jose and money was raised for his School programme. I believe that the students here are enthusiastic about this programme and continue raising funds here. This is a major part of the Evangelization programme.Let's not forget we benefited from it in the past. So now let's face the Renovation of our cathedral in which so many of us celebrated the Sacramental and Prayer life of the Church, and where we received the Sacraments of Initiation - Baptism, Confirmation and Eucharist and some even Marriage. No doubt through the years the Masika rains and time have done much damage and repairs are much needed and prohibitively expensive. Let's all pitch in for the repairs to the Cathedral the cradle of our spiritual life. So Tony! form a Finance Committee with Bishop Shao's approval, which will be accountable for funds from abroad and we will do what we can from this part of the world. Lets all meet the needs of the present to build for the future and leave the past alone. His blessings will continue to be bounteous to us - He is never outdone in generosity.
God bless. Fr. Al Furtado C.S.Sp.
===========================
From: Antao, Tony
Subject: RE: Z'bar
To: "j.birkmeyer" "Lloyd Rebeiro"
Date: Sunday, December 10, 2006, 2:25 PM
I am very very familiar with this project by the archbishop of Zanzibar. Fr. Alwyn Furtado has been very active in this project and is a good friend of the archbishop.The archbishop visits the USA regualrly to raise funds and has good support here in the USA. He recently spoke at a convention in Washington D.C. He has good connections in the USA.
-----Original Message-----
From: j.birkmeyer [mailto:jbirkmeyer@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sun 12/10/2006 12:30 PM
To: Lloyd Rebeiro; Antao, Tony
Cc:
Subject: Fwd: Z'bar
Thought you both might be interested in what the Archdiocese is doing in ZNZ although this is not run by the Sisters of the Precious Blood.
Cels wrote:
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 23:27:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Cels
Subject: Z'bar
To: Jonita Birkmeyer
Check this website
http://www.dioceseofzanzibar.org/ChezuWisCtr.htm
===================================
From: antonio antao
Subject: Re: [SJCSZanzibar] Cathedral Restoration
To: "j.birkmeyer"
Date: Monday, March 17, 2008, 7:53 PM
ok
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 4:06 PM
Subject: Fwd: [SJCSZanzibar] Cathedral Restoration
Tony:
This is what I had posted a year ago. When you get the OK from Tony M and you know what the breakdown for the various repairs are, we could repost this message with the updates.
Jo
"j.birkmeyer" wrote:
To: SJCSZAN
From: "j.birkmeyer"
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:13:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SJCSZanzibar] Cathedral Restoration
This information has been posted on this site because the Cathedral was/is a place of worship for many of the members of this forum.
St. Joseph's Cathedral in Zanzibar is the oldest Church in East Africa. The Cathedral was designed by the same architect who designed the Notre Dame Basilica at Marseilles, France. French missionaries built St Joseph's between 1893 and 1898. The twin spires of St Joseph can be seen from any elevated point in town and it is one of the first sights that travelers see when the ferry arrives in Zanzibar.
The building is greatly in need of repair. Because of its historical value, the government has placed certain restrictions on the work. It will be extensive and will require technical competence.
A committee has been formed in Zanzibar to oversee the restoration efforts. The cost of the repair for the roofing has been estimated at 128,000 Euros.
For more information on how you can be involved in the efforts to restore this historic edifice, please contact:
Tony Madeira
or
Fr. Alwyn Furtado
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
==============================
On Sun, 3/16/08, antonio antao
wrote:
From: antonio antao
Subject: Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
To: "tony Madeira
Date: Sunday, March 16, 2008, 8:43 PM
Tony Madeira:
I notice that Benito and his group are trying to raise funds for the restoration of our beautiful St.Joseph Church in Zanzibar. I am willing to help in this noble cause and work with the group here in the USA. Let me know how this committee is being arranged and doing the fund raising etc.
On another note, I recently came from a vacation in Istanbul,Turkey and saw in the Islamic city, the beautiful church that was the Pearl of the Eastern Catholic church-Hagha Sophia-Also called St.Sophia Catherdal. It was converted to a mosque and now is a museum and is being restored. And it got me thinking of our gothic church in zanzibar. We must do everything to preserve and restore it until UNESCO provides fund etc.
Let me know and give me the green light to go ahead. I saw Fr. Alwyn in San Francisco last month and he was very passionate about saving the church.Over 95% of the graduates from the St. Joseph Covenent school worshipped in this church and provided us with good support. Hope we can ask them all to help.We must save the house of our Catholic Faith.
----- Original Message -----
From: tony madeira
To: astridleo@btinternet.com ; mmdacunha@gmail.com ; johnbc@dircon.co.uk ; bvents@aol.com ; aantao@wi.rr.com ; jbirkmeyer@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 7:20 AM
Subject: FW: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
From: malaika99@hotmail.com
To: tonykosh@hotmail.com; stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:02:35 +0000
Dear Tony,
Thanks for your email re the above Renovation Committee for St. Joseph's Cathedral.
This is a very noble effort on the part of all who are volunteering and no doubt
the sacrifice of their Time, Effort and Donations will be well rewarded by the Lord.
St. Joseph's Cathedral is where we received some, if not all, of the Sacramental graces of Baptism, Eucharist, Confirmation and Marriage. Furthermore, St. Joseph's School only existed because of the Church, as Education was part of the Missionary endeavour of the Holy Ghost Fathers based on the injunction of Christ:'Go and Teach...'.
From this part of the World we will do the best we can to raise Funds for this
noble effort. Furthermore if an effort could be made by the Committee to seek help from
other sources to have St. Joseph's Cathedral declared as a 'Historical Monument' as
the Anglican Church is, then all the necessary funds would come from the United Nations
Historical and Environmental Fund. However,this is for now may be only a dream away. For the present we would have to depend on our own effort. I will do all I can from this end to help in the effort of fundraising.
God bless. Keep the info. coming.
Fr. Al
Fr. Alwyn Furtado C.S.Sp.
St. Mark's Church, 325 Marine View, BELMONT, CA. 94002.
From:
To:
Subject: FW: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:35:11 +0300
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From: BVENTS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:19:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
To: stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com; tonykosh@hotmail.com
CC: astridleo@btinternet.com; joedelord@hotmail.com; machado@freenetname.co.uk; info@jbcoutinho.com
Dear Anthony cc: For the attention of Tony Madeira - re my mail sent to you yesterday.
Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Introducing myself, I am Benito De Souza, ex-student of St. Joseph's Convent School Zanzibar, born in Zanzibar and it will always remain as my home.
Taking note of the current condition of St. Joseph's RC Church, we are forming a committee to help raise funds to support the project in restoring our church to full strength and bring back the pride to our RC members still living in Zanzibar.
Unfortunately some of us were committed in promoting SJCS Zanzibar Reunion 2008 which was held in Goa, and now that is all over, we want to put some effort into working alongside your team to help raise funds to get all the work necessary done as soon as possible and perhaps in phases starting with the most important work (roof) done first. (We have seen the scaffolding erected and work being carried out but do nor know the latest position).
Very much appreciate if you could kindly advise who are your team members working on this project. Who is the first point of contact to provide up-to-date information on what needs to be done, costs and availability of builders. Most important the time scales for each job.
If you have available costs for work to be done, either entire church or each part in stages, we would very much appreciate you forward as soon as possible.
Right now we are putting a team together and any first hand up-to-date information will be very useful. Once we have confirmed our team members, we will let you know.
I look forward to hearing from you,and in the meantime you are assured we will do all we can to assist, and in turn we need your co-operation in posting us details as requested.
Also appreciate if you could keep us advised on the current financial position, e.g. Is work currently still going on, and are there funds to keep progressing?
Many thanks.
Benito de Souza
(Team member supporting St. Joseph's Church Zbar).
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Subject: Email Address of the Renovation of St. Joseph's Cathedral Zanzibar
Dear Office Bearers
Kindly be informed that the official email address for all correspondance concerning the renovation works on the Cathedral is as follows
stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Thanking you in advance for your kind co-operation.
Yours Sincerely
Anthony M. Gomes
Secretary
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From:
To:
Subject: RE: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:02:35 +0000
Dear Tony,
Thanks for your email re the above Renovation Committee for St. Joseph's Cathedral.
This is a very noble effort on the part of all who are volunteering and no doubt
the sacrifice of their Time, Effort and Donations will be well rewarded by the Lord.
St. Joseph's Cathedral is where we received some, if not all, of the Sacramental graces of Baptism, Eucharist, Confirmation and Marriage. Furthermore, St. Joseph's School only existed because of the Church, as Education was part of the Missionary endeavour of the Holy Ghost Fathers based on the injunction of Christ:'Go and Teach...'.
From this part of the World we will do the best we can to raise Funds for this
noble effort. Furthermore if an effort could be made by the Committee to seek help from
other sources to have St. Joseph's Cathedral declared as a 'Historical Monument' as
the Anglican Church is, then all the necessary funds would come from the United Nations
Historical and Environmental Fund. However,this is for now may be only a dream away. For the present we would have to depend on our own effort. I will do all I can from this end to help in the effort of fundraising.
God bless. Keep the info. coming.
Fr. Al
Fr. Alwyn Furtado C.S.Sp.
St. Mark's Church, 325 Marine View, BELMONT, CA. 94002.
From:
To:
Subject: FW: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:35:11 +0300
From: BVENTS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:19:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
To: stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com; tonykosh@hotmail.com
CC: astridleo@btinternet.com; joedelord@hotmail.com; machado@freenetname.co.uk; info@jbcoutinho.com
Dear Anthony cc: For the attention of Tony Madeira - re my mail sent to you yesterday.
Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Introducing myself, I am Benito De Souza, ex-student of St. Joseph's Convent School Zanzibar, born in Zanzibar and it will always remain as my home.
Taking note of the current condition of St. Joseph's RC Church, we are forming a committee to help raise funds to support the project in restoring our church to full strength and bring back the pride to our RC members still living in Zanzibar.
Unfortunately some of us were committed in promoting SJCS Zanzibar Reunion 2008 which was held in Goa, and now that is all over, we want to put some effort into working alongside your team to help raise funds to get all the work necessary done as soon as possible and perhaps in phases starting with the most important work (roof) done first. (We have seen the scaffolding erected and work being carried out but do nor know the latest position).
Very much appreciate if you could kindly advise who are your team members working on this project. Who is the first point of contact to provide up-to-date information on what needs to be done, costs and availability of builders. Most important the time scales for each job.
If you have available costs for work to be done, either entire church or each part in stages, we would very much appreciate you forward as soon as possible.
Right now we are putting a team together and any first hand up-to-date information will be very useful. Once we have confirmed our team members, we will let you know.
I look forward to hearing from you,and in the meantime you are assured we will do all we can to assist, and in turn we need your co-operation in posting us details as requested.
Also appreciate if you could keep us advised on the current financial position, e.g. Is work currently still going on, and are there funds to keep progressing?
Many thanks.
Benito de Souza
(Team member supporting St. Joseph's Church Zbar).
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Subject: Email Address of the Renovation of St. Joseph's Cathedral Zanzibar
Dear Office Bearers
Kindly be informed that the official email address for all correspondence concerning the renovation works on the Cathedral is as follows
stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Thanking you in advance for your kind co-operation.
Yours Sincerely
Anthony M. Gomes
Secretary
--- In SJCSZanzibar@yahoogroups.com, "Tony De Nazareth" wrote:
Hi Benito
Lovely pictures. I went round a couple of times stopping at various stalls and saying hello to people I know always eager to catch up with folks from Zanzibar.
I am surprised at the number I missed and you managed to capture. I will have to do better next year.
Thanks too for the link to the construction of St. Josephs Church. It conjures so many good memories for me that I am keen to support such a worthy cause. Tony M 's cause might be better served if he would let us know the cost of the construction, what they have managed to find to date and the shortfall they have to find. It is quite essential to provide a few more details such as bank account and people who will be responsible for monitoring the disbursement of these funds. Happy to help in any other way.
All the best,
Anthony
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 02:17:49 -0700
From: stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Subject: Renovation Committee Members - St Joseph Cathedral Zanzibar
Hii Tony
The following is the list of the Renovation Committee members.
1. Fr. Evaristus Mushi Chairman
2. Charles Lubega Vice Chairman
3. Anthony Gomes Secretary
4. James Makale Asst. Secretary
5. Alice Salem Treasusurer
6. Richard Batista Member
7. Anthony Madeira Member
8. Raymond Martins Member
9. Ignatius Moniz Member
10. Raphael Mabagala Member
11. Enerst Kinangala Member
12. Laurian Kipeja Member
13. S.R Vincent Member
14. Fr. Manfred Mjengwa Member
15. Martin Philipo Member
Note: About the US Dollar Account No. I will advise tomorrow.
Best Regards
Anthony Gomes
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Hi Tony and Benito:
I just sent you all the correspondence I had saved from 2007 and 2008 regarding this topic. I thought it might be helpful to see what was happening three years ago when the initial appeal for funds went out and understand what the problems were.
Like I said previously, I know there are many folks who are still quite skeptical about sending in donations - those that sent money for the renovation of the cemetery are still smarting for nothing having been done there; others sent in money for church renovations and have proof that the money was used for the bishop's mansion. So we have to make this collection effort is something that people will have more faith in and be willing to give, AGAIN, and be assured that, this time around, their donations will be used appropriately.
I believe that it is important to have professionals who know what they are doing be the ones who do the renovations, rather than a rag tag bunch of folks. This would give this whole project more credibility.
As Tony Nazareth's email expressed, it is important to know exactly:
- what exactly is expected to be completed in each phase of the project
- how much will be needed for each phase
- what is the time line for completion of the each phase
- how long will it take to complete the total renovation
I think it is important to be completely transparent about all this by posting all this info on the internet.
I think we should have one person per country responsible for this. This means that all donations go to that one person - this would make things less confusing. The rest of the folks can be instrumental in urging people to send in their donations. Donations should be disbursed per phase rather than the lump sum sent.
In my many conversations with Lloyd, who in his 40 years as a parish priest sent hundreds of thousand of dollars to Sr. Hildergardis for her projects in Walezo and Arusha, the money was sent out in "instalments" by the mother house in Germany where Lloyd always sent the donations he collected. When a particular project was completed, he would get pictures and a run down of all the expenses for that particular project. Then the next sum of money would be released for the next project...He not only managed to renovate Walezo but was able to help the sisters set us another leper colony near Arusha - with a hospital, and chapel. The pictures and post renovation accounting made it easier to collect for succeeding projects.
Another issue he talked about was that when he initially sent the thousands directly to the sisters, the sisters always got short changed by the banks. They'd come home with bagful of money, and which they couldn't count at the bank, only to find that they weren't given all they had expected, and then couldn't go back to bank to argue about it because the bank wouldn't believe THEY made the error. So this is another issue the donation collectors should be aware of.
So, if the committee in Zanzibar can answer Tony Nazareth's concerns, that would be a good place to start. Once we have this we can put announcements on the t-goan and our school sites to appear on a regular basis.
Just my thoughts.
Jo
From: tony antao
To: al fur Jo Birkmeyer
Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 12:25:18 PM
Subject: st. Joseph church appeal
I would like to help raise funds from folks in the USA. However, I need your help. Would you be willing to serve on a committee for USA to solicit funds for this good cause. We have Al on the west coast, we need someone on the east coast. Do you know anyone who could help. Lloyd would be a good person, but the last time I approached him, he was not willing to participate. If Joanita/Al can try to convince him, that will be nice. Otherwise someone else you know in the NY/New Jersey area will be helpful. If you have any other folks who would be good candidates to serve, let me know.
I am willing to keep the accounts and remit the money to Zanzibar. But we must wait to see if there is someone in charge at the head of this fund raising e.g. Benito etc
Would appreciate your thoughts and ideas on this as this is a very good cause to save and restore it. This is our "Santa Sophia" like the church in Turkey.
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:46:44 -0800
From: stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Subject: Email Address of the Renovation of St. Joseph's Cathedral Zanzibar
Dear Office Bearers
Kindly be informed that the official email address for all correspondence concerning the renovation works on the Cathedral is as follows
stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Thanking you in advance for your kind co-operation.
Yours Sincerely
Anthony M. Gomes
Secretary
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From: al fur
Subject: Fw: With apologies - Bishop Shao,
To: "Jo Birkmeyer"
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007, 6:24 PM
This I received in Feb. It would be better to get the Bishop to write an Appeal
which can then be forwarded to all concerned. May be at the Goa reunion would be
a good time. God bless. Fr. Al
----- Original Message -----
From: Diocese of Zanzibar
To: al fur
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 5:40 AM
Subject: With apologies - Bishop Shao,
Dear Fr. Al,
Many season greetings and hope that you are doing well. I'm in receipt of a
copy of e.mail that Fr. Casmir Nyaki sent to the manager of Missionary
Spirit Travel in Arusha that you are contemplating of sending a group to
Tanzania this year.
May I assure you Al. that the Spiritans and the diocese of Zanzibar owns a
tour company in Arusha that is for tickets and tourist. I started the
company in the early 90s. but was closed in late 1998. It is now in
operation and we are indeed looking for clients who can use our facilities.
It is more active in Arusha and the costal areas, taking people to Bagamoyo,
where the Spiritans have an animation center. Sporadically, tourists come to
Zanzibar and are taken care by our faithful like Fabian and Tonny.
Very soon the company will be on the web-site and will be able to read what
it offers. Since the company is building itself we don't talk of profit yet,
but of course the future is bright. We are as well looking for partners
abroad, and you may be in the position of getting interested people to gang
with us. You are welcome Al to avail to the facilities.
Back home in Zanzibar, it is quite hot now or otherwise everything is okay.
We have just risked to start form one this year at Tomondo and we have 38
students girls and boys together. We hope to separate them once we get funds
to finish the Chejcu center. There are still some demands at Tomondo, and by
next year we will need dormitories for form two and two streams of form one.
In the primary school we still have about 35% to 40% of our Christian
children who cannot pay the fees and have to be assisted. Thank you for
being part of our struggles and may God bless you in every way.
We are as well working on our Cathedral roof. We are replacing it all. It
will cost us over 97 million Tanzanian shillings. When we get to finish it,
then the chase will remain on the walls and the Mosaic paintings. We will
for sure look for volunteers who know about Mosaic paintings. Keep us in
your prayer Al.
May God bless you during this Lenten season the season for purification and
blessing.
Fraternally in Christ,
Bishop Shao, C.S.Sp.
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From: al fur
Subject: re. Funds for the Church
To: Jo
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007, 6:05 PM
Hi there Jo!
Greetings from Calif. belated Easter seasonal wishes. In ref. to Tony's email. I would suggest that sending any funds to Zbar or Dar will mean they loose a lot of money in the transaction. I sent $100.00 for Masses to to be said to the Provincial in Arusha and he told me he would have to pay admin.fees of $40.00. I had to write another Ck. for the same amount and sent it to Pittsburgh, Pa. where the East Province of the Holy Ghost Fathers have an Account. I would suggest that you that you hold on to the funds - until an Account is opened here in the States. Also I will get Bishop Augustine Shayo of Zbr. to write an Appeal which you can forward to all.
God Bless,
Sincerely, Fr. Alwyn
P.S. As Tony Antao suggested it may be wise to act upon this AFTER the Re-Union in Goa where an Appeal can be made.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: FW: break down for our church.
Dear Jo,
Thanks for your e-mail.
1)The Benefiaciary name :
ST.JOSEPH CHURCH RENOVATION ZANZIBAR
Account no : 034068 TZS-TSAV-001 (Zanzibar)
Beneficiary's Bank : FBME Bank Limited
Dar es Salaam, Tazania
Swift : FBMETZTZ
2) The St.Joseph Renovation is in Zanzibar not Dar es Salaam.
3) Account number is in Zanzibar, because the head office for Federal Bank is in Dar es Salaam that it why you will see Dar but the account number is in Zanzibar for those who send any telegraphic transfer through this bank it has to go to the head office in Dar first and automatically the money will be transferred the account in Zanzibar as they have a branch Bank here in Zanzibar and the account number to deposit the money is 034068TZS-TSAV-001.
Nothing Much.
Kind regards,
Tony madeira
Subject: Re: FW: break down for our church.
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:05:34 -0700 (PDT)
Tony:
I was looking at the account info. you sent for money transfer and have a few questions:
1. You have the name of the beneficiary as:
St. Joseph Church Renovation - you haven't specified that it is for the Zanzibar Church - the Dar Church is also named the same.
2. Please confirm that the account is at the:
FBME Bank Limited in Daressalaam (why isn't the money collected in a bank in Zanzibar)
3. Please confirm that the account number is: 034068 TZS TSAV - 001
I would like to transfer some money from an account in Daressalaam to the bank that is collecting for the renovation. That's why I need this clarification.
Thanks.
Jo
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From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: PLEASE HELP TO RENOVATE OUR CHURCH,PLEASE HEAR A CRY OF OUR BISHOP
To: "al fur"
Date: Monday, March 5, 2007, 7:19 PM
Fr. Alwyn:
Please send me the address of where I can send a check for the renovation of the Cathedral on Zanzibar; and also, please let me know who to make out the check to.
Thanks,
Jo
From: tony madeira
Subject: RE: Fwd: Cathedral Restoration
Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 7:02 AM
Hi Jo,,
Thank you for you support those who can help our church blessining will go to their entire families.
regs tony
Subject: Fwd: Cathedral Restoration
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:14:31 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:13:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: "j.birkmeyer"
Subject: Cathedral Restoration
To: SJCSZAN
This information has been posted on this site because the Cathedral was/is a place of worship for many of the members of this forum.
St. Joseph's Cathedral in Zanzibar is the oldest Church in East Africa. The Cathedral was designed by the same architect who designed the Notre Dame Basilica at Marseilles, France. French missionaries built St Joseph's between 1893 and 1898. The twin spires of St Joseph can be seen from any elevated point in town and it is one of the first sights that travelers see when the ferry arrives in Zanzibar.
The
building is greatly in need of repair. Because of its historical value, the government has placed certain restrictions on the work. It will be extensive and will require technical competence.
A committee has been formed in Zanzibar to oversee the restoration efforts. The cost of the repair for the roofing has been estimated at 128,000 Euros.
For more information on how you can be involved in the efforts to restore this historic edifice, please contact:
Tony Madeira
tonykosh@hotmail.com
Sans MS"
or
Fr. Alwyn Furtado
malaika99@hotmail.com
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Dear Jo,
Thanks for your e-mail.
1)The Benefiaciary name :
ST.JOSEPH CHURCH RENOVATION ZANZIBAR
Account no : 034068 TZS-TSAV-001 (Zanzibar)
Beneficiary's Bank : FBME Bank Limited
Dar es Salaam, Tazania
Swift : FBMETZTZ
2) The St.Joseph Renovation is in Zanzibar not Dar es Salaam.
3) Account number is in Zanzibar, because the head office for Federal Bank is in Dar es Salaam that it why you will see Dar but the account number is in Zanzibar for those who send any telegraphic transfer through this bank it has to go to the head office in Dar first and automatically the money will be transferred the account in Zanzibar as they have a branch Bank here in Zanzibar and the account number to deposit the money is 034068TZS-TSAV-001.
Nothing Much.
Kind regards,
Tony madeira
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From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: Re: FW: break down for our church.
To: >"tony madeira"
Cc: "alwyn furtado" Tony Antao"
Date: Saturday, April 28, 2007, 12:05 PM
Tony:
I was looking at the account info. you sent for money transfer and have a few questions:
1. You have the name of the beneficiary as:
St. Joseph Church Renovation - you haven't specified that it is for the Zanzibar Church - the Dar Church is also named the same.
2. Please confirm that the account is at the:
FBME Bank Limited in Daressalaam (why isn't the money collected in a bank in Zanzibar)
3. Please confirm that the account number is: 034068 TZS TSAV - 001
I would like to transfer some money from an account in Daressalaam to the bank that is collecting for the renovation. That's why I need this clarification.
Thanks.
Jo
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Date: Saturday, April 28, 2007, 12:10 AM
From: "Tony De Nazareth"
To:
CC:
Subject: Church restoration
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:28:10 +0100
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Hello Tony
I am very pleased and grateful for your efforts in the restoration of the church. St Joseph's is part of me and I recall very fondly my time as a Church boy. I can still visualise seeing the roof from my home every time I looked out of our window. When I was in Zanzibar last October I made a point of looking at the ceiling and I suspected there was a problem.
My dad loved the Church as we all did. I would like to do something for the Church in his memory. When your plans for raising the funds are in place please contact me again and I will committ myself to donating at least 1% of the sum needed.
Please let me know how things are progressing and if there is anything I can do in thev meantime. I hope you can persuade our SJCS gathering in Goa next year to make a special collection for the Church.
Father Alwyn are you Lenny's or Peter 's brother? I know I mix the two but hello all the same. I hope I see you both in Goa.
Best wishes
Anthony Nazareth
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Subject: Re: Fw: St Joseph's Cathedral restoration
Date: Thursday, April 19, 2007, 10:28 AM
Thanks Tony for your prompt reply.
I was wondering if Bosco Moniz could collect the donations here.
It's tough on my side as I am overwhelmed with worries....which includes how to remit to my brother who has CFS as no help is available for his kind of illness and he too in in dire financial stress.
But I do want to send a little something...and I'm sure there are many like me.
Let me see what I can do for Our Zanzibar Church.
God Bless,
Cels
Madeira wrote:
Well, we have not appointed any body to collect any funds for the St Joesph Church, there is an account whichsent to you its opeaned in the name of St Joesph Church you can send it direct and a note to us then we will issue you a receipt and not forgetting your full adress please as so the committee will send you a receipt for you kind denotation .
The reason we do not want to have some one to collect the denotations is because of confusion .
1: Then its a problem to know who has donated and the Church will be happy to know the person as the Bishop is going to say a mass for all those who have helped us this is a though time for us as its heavy rains and the renovation for the first stage has started and its to save our one and only beautiful Church. As you all know its less then 1% of Christians in the isles so I don’t need to explain you much but you will understand what I am seining.
2: There has been a problem in past in the collections of our Church epically to chose some one. The St Joseph committee has decided to ask all love one to donate direct from bank to bank to the account direct and we will ensure you denotations goes for the repair of the Church.
3, for those of you who are not aware of the committee members there are,
Mrs Alice Salim,
Mr Iggi Moniz
Mr Anton Gomes
Mr Richerd Babtisa
Mr Raymond Martins
Mr Tony Madeira
Nothing much god bless our st joesph church and god bless zanzibar.
regs tony
Subject: St Joseph's Cathedral restoration
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:31:12 -0400 (EDT)
Is there anybody in Canada or UK who is appointed to collect the funds.
Pls let me know.
Thanks,
Cels
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From: tony madeira
Subject: RE: St Joseph's Cathedral restoration
Date: Thursday, April 19, 2007, 1:27 AM
Hi Cels,
Well, we have not appointed any body to collect any funds for the St Joesph Church, there is an account which sent to you its opened in the name of St Joesph Church you can send it direct and a note to us then we will issue you a receipt and not forfeiting your full address please as so the committee will send you a receipt for you kind denotation .
The reason we do not want to have some one to collect the denotations is because of confusion .
1: Then its a problem to know who has donated and the Church will be happy to know the person as the Bishop is going to say a mass for all those who have helped us this is a though time for us as its heavy rains and the renovation for the first stage has started and its to save our one and only beautiful Church. As you all know its less then 1% of Christians in the isles so I don’t need to explain you much but you will understand what I am seining.
2: There has been a problem in past in the collections of our Church epically to chose some one. The St Joseph committee has decided to ask all love one to donate direct from bank to bank to the account direct and we will ensure you denotations goes for the repair of the Church.
3, for those of you who are not aware of the committee members there are,
Mrs Alice Salim,
Mr Iggi Moniz
Mr Anton Gomes
Mr Richerd Babtisa
Mr Raymond Martins
Mr Tony Madeira
Nothing much god bless our st joesph church and god bless zanzibar.
regs tony
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From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:34 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
This is what I had prepared to post but I didn't want to have another fight with Karpal or have him accuse me of sabotaging the reunion committee's efforts.
Perhaps if you post this he might be more inclined to accept it. Then when people contact you, you can email them the details of the renovation and ask them to send you the donations. I think if you ask for donations publicly you might not get any response - we have found that most of our members don't like to dig deep into their pockets.
Tony Madeira is on the committee that is overseeing this. He has recommended a bank to bank transfer but he also said that he would be happy to take the checks and deposit them himself. I just thought if someone here would be responsible for collecting and then doing a bank transfer it would make things easier for the donors.
This information has been posted on this site because the Cathedral was a place of worship for many of the members of this forum.
St. Joseph's Cathedral is the oldest Church in East Africa. The Cathedral was designed by the same architect who designed the Notre Dame Basilica at Marseilles, France. French missionaries built St Joseph's between 1893 and 1898. The twin spires of St Joseph can be seen from any elevated point in town and it is one of the first sights that travelers see when the ferry arrives in Zanzibar.
The building is greatly in need of repair. Because of its historical value, the government has placed certain restrictions on the work. It will be extensive and will require technical competence.
A committee that has been formed in Zanzibar to oversee the restoration. For more information on how you can be involved in restoration of beautiful, historic building, please contact:
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
thanks for the explanation. I did put the request on T-Goan. I got one response and that was the husband of a teacher who taught us at SJCS. No one responded to the request.
I have been reading a lot on Istanbul, Turkey and the magnificent st.Sophia cathedral. This is a church built by Emperor Constantinopal and his son Justin. They built this Byzantine church and then the Turks invaded and captured the church. At first they kept it as a church; but the Turk leader died. It was converted to a mosque and now it is a museum. I mention this because we have a beautiful gothic church in the heart of Zanzibar, 95% Muslim. Something has to be done to preserve this church just like the St.Sophia cathedral in Istanbul. This is history and I am afraid if something is not done, we will loose it.
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Large Bank Supervision
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From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:48 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado; Tony Madeira
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
In November 2006, when I posted a call for funds for Lloyd's project on our school site, Karpal, Head of the Reunion 2008 Committee, accused me of trying to undermine the efforts of the Goa 2008 Committee. Karpal felt that I was encouraging people not to give to the "Nuns' Fund". I am still quite angry that I was accused without any basis for the accusation. I tried to explain that I hadn't been aware that your fundraising was a 3 year plan, and just what the funds were going to be used for. ... and if you go back and check the messages you will see that you explained all of this for the first time, AFTER my message about Lloyd's project.
I decided then, as owner and moderator of the site, that it seemed safe that ONLY solicitations for the Nuns' Fund would be posted on this site. No other call for money will be posted on this site until after the next reunion. I don't want to get into an altercation again with anyone.
You should also have noticed that soon after I received a note about the Church Renovation (in Feb), there were several posts encouraging people to subscribe to the t-goan site for Goan and Catholic information. If you go to the home page on the SJCSZ forum you will see this is in the introductory message too. I will continue to remind the members to do this.
Now you know why your posting of "a good cause" never made it on.
Jo
"Antao, Tony" <
wrote
I put this request on the SJCS website; but it was not allowed for reasons that I do not understand.Over 95% of the students who went to the SJCS were members of this church. I see stupid stuff being discussed and entered on the website; but a good cause like this is not allowed is hard to understand.
I have no problem accepting donations and sending it to fr. alwyn; but it is time consuming to send request to every person. I felt the SJCS website was a good vehicle to get the information to all and not the Tanzania Goan website.; but those who control the web site for SJCS do not see it fit to be allowed.
so if you can get this request out to all and send the funds to me; i will collect it and send it to fr. alwyn.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
___________________________________
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
This message is intended for designated recipients only. If you have received this message in error, please delete the original and all copies and notify the sender immediately. Federal law prohibits the disclosure or other use of this information.
From: j.birkmeyer [mailto:jbirkmeyer@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
al fur wrote:
From: al fur
To: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000;}
THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
==============================
From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "Antao, Tony" Date: Thursday, April 5, 2007, 11:33 PM
Tony:
This is what I had prepared to post but I didn't want to have another fight with Karpal or have him accuse me of sabotaging the reunion committee's efforts.
Perhaps if you post this he might be more inclined to accept it. Then when people contact you, you can email them the details of the renovation and ask them to send you the donations. I think if you ask for donations publicly you might not get any response - we have found that most of our members don't like to dig deep into their pockets.
Tony Madeira is on the committee that is overseeing this. He has recommended a bank to bank transfer but he also said that he would be happy to take the checks and deposit them himself. I just thought if someone here would be responsible for collecting and then doing a bank transfer it would make things easier for the donors.
This information has been posted on this site because the Cathedral was a place of worship for many of the members of this forum.
St. Joseph's Cathedral is the oldest Church in East Africa. The Cathedral was designed by the same architect who designed the Notre Dame Basilica at Marseilles, France. French missionaries built St Joseph's between 1893 and 1898. The twin spires of St Joseph can be seen from any elevated point in town and it is one of the first sights that travelers see when the ferry arrives in Zanzibar.
The building is greatly in need of repair. Because of its historical value, the government has placed certain restrictions on the work. It will be extensive and will require technical competence.
A committee that has been formed in Zanzibar to oversee the restoration. For more information on how you can be involved in restoration of beautiful, historic building, please contact:
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
Thanks for the explanation. I did put the request on T-Goan. I got one response and that was the husband of a teacher who taught us at SJCS. No one responded to the request.
I have been reading a lot on Istanbul, Turkey and the magnificent st.Sophia cathedral. This is a church built by Emperor Constantinopal and his son Justin. They built this Byzantine church and then the Turks invaded and captured the church. At first they kept it as a church; but the Turk leader died. It was converted to a mosque and now it is a museum. I mention this because we have a beautiful gothic church in the heart of Zanzibar, 95% Muslim. Something has to be done to preserve this church just like the St.Sophia cathedral in Istanbul. This is history and I am afraid if something is not done, we will loose it.
______________________________
From: jo
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:48 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado; Tony Madeira
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
In November 2006, when I posted a call for funds for Lloyd's project on our school site, Karpal, Head of the Reunion 2008 Committee, accused me of trying to undermine the efforts of the Goa 2008 Committee. Karpal felt that I was encouraging people not to give to the "Nuns' Fund". I am still quite angry that I was accused without any basis for the accusation. I tried to explain that I hadn't been aware that your fundraising was a 3 year plan, and just what the funds were going to be used for. ... and if you go back and check the messages you will see that you explained all of this for the first time, AFTER my message about Lloyd's project.
I decided then, as owner and moderator of the site, that it seemed safe that ONLY solicitations for the Nuns' Fund would be posted on this site. No other call for money will be posted on this site until after the next reunion. I don't want to get into an altercation again with anyone.
You should also have noticed that soon after I received a note about the Church Renovation (in Feb), there were several posts encouraging people to subscribe to the t-goan site for Goan and Catholic information. If you go to the home page on the SJCSZ forum you will see this is in the introductory message too. I will continue to remind the members to do this.
Now you know why your posting of "a good cause" never made it on.
Jo
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
I put this request on the SJCS website; but it was not allowed for reasons that I do not understand.Over 95% of the students who went to the SJCS were members of this church. I see stupid stuff being discussed and entered on the website; but a good cause like this is not allowed is hard to understand.
I have no problem accepting donations and sending it to fr. alwyn; but it is time consuming to send request to every person. I felt the SJCS website was a good vehicle to get the information to all and not the Tanzania Goan website.; but those who control the web site for SJCS do not see it fit to be allowed.
so if you can get this request out to all and send the funds to me; i will collect it and send it to fr. alwyn.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
___________________________________
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
This message is intended for designated recipients only. If you have received this message in error, please delete the original and all copies and notify the sender immediately. Federal law prohibits the disclosure or other use of this information.
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
al fur wrote:
From: al fur
To: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000
#AOLMsgPart_3_5abf4435-9957-4253-99db-f60fe7a609a7 td{color: black;} #AOLMsgPart_3_5abf4435-9957-4253-99db-f60fe7a609a7 #yiv666507007 P { PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;}#AOLMsgPart_3_5abf4435-9957-4253-99db-f60fe7a609a7 #yiv666507007 {FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} HI THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
===============================
From: Antao, Tony
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "j.birkmeyer"
Date: Thursday, April 5, 2007, 2:06 PM
thanks for the explanation. I did put the request on T-Goan. I got one response and that was the husband of a teacher who taught us at SJCS. No one responded to the request.
I have been reading a lot on Istanbul, Turkey and the magnificent st.Sophia cathedral. This is a church built by Emperor Constantinopal and his son Justin. They built this Byzantine church and then the Turks invaded and captured the church. At first they kept it as a church; but the Turk leader died. It was converted to a mosque and now it is a museum. I mention this because we have a beautiful gothic church in the heart of Zanzibar, 95% Muslim. Something has to be done to preserve this church just like the St.Sophia cathedral in Istanbul. This is history and I am afraid if something is not done, we will loose it.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
___________________________________
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
This message is intended for designated recipients only. If you have received this message in error, please delete the original and all copies and notify the sender immediately. Federal law prohibits the disclosure or other use of this information.
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:48 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado; Tony Madeira
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
In November 2006, when I posted a call for funds for Lloyd's project on our school site, Karpal, Head of the Reunion 2008 Committee, accused me of trying to undermine the efforts of the Goa 2008 Committee. Karpal felt that I was encouraging people not to give to the "Nuns' Fund". I am still quite angry that I was accused without any basis for the accusation. I tried to explain that I hadn't been aware that your fundraising was a 3 year plan, and just what the funds were going to be used for. ... and if you go back and check the messages you will see that you explained all of this for the first time, AFTER my message about Lloyd's project.
I decided then, as owner and moderator of the site, that it seemed safe that ONLY solicitations for the Nuns' Fund would be posted on this site. No other call for money will be posted on this site until after the next reunion. I don't want to get into an altercation again with anyone.
You should also have noticed that soon after I received a note about the Church Renovation (in Feb), there were several posts encouraging people to subscribe to the t-goan site for Goan and Catholic information. If you go to the home page on the SJCSZ forum you will see this is in the introductory message too. I will continue to remind the members to do this.
Now you know why your posting of "a good cause" never made it on.
Jo
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
I put this request on the SJCS website; but it was not allowed for reasons that I do not understand.Over 95% of the students who went to the SJCS were members of this church. I see stupid stuff being discussed and entered on the website; but a good cause like this is not allowed is hard to understand.
I have no problem accepting donations and sending it to fr. alwyn; but it is time consuming to send request to every person. I felt the SJCS website was a good vehicle to get the information to all and not the Tanzania Goan website.; but those who control the web site for SJCS do not see it fit to be allowed.
so if you can get this request out to all and send the funds to me; i will collect it and send it to fr. alwyn.
______________________________
From: j.birkmeyer [mailto:jbirkmeyer@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.al fur
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000
THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
====================
From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "Antao, Tony"
Date: Thursday, April 5, 2007, 1:47 PM
Tony:
In November 2006, when I posted a call for funds for Lloyd's project on our school site, Karpal, Head of the Reunion 2008 Committee, accused me of trying to undermine the efforts of the Goa 2008 Committee. Karpal felt that I was encouraging people not to give to the "Nuns' Fund". I am still quite angry that I was accused without any basis for the accusation. I tried to explain that I hadn't been aware that your fundraising was a 3 year plan, and just what the funds were going to be used for. ... and if you go back and check the messages you will see that you explained all of this for the first time, AFTER my message about Lloyd's project.
I decided then, as owner and moderator of the site, that it seemed safe that ONLY solicitations for the Nuns' Fund would be posted on this site. No other call for money will be posted on this site until after the next reunion. I don't want to get into an altercation again with anyone.
You should also have noticed that soon after I received a note about the Church Renovation (in Feb), there were several posts encouraging people to subscribe to the t-goan site for Goan and Catholic information. If you go to the home page on the SJCSZ forum you will see this is in the introductory message too. I will continue to remind the members to do this.
Now you know why your posting of "a good cause" never made it on.
Jo
"Antao, Tony" wrote:
I put this request on the SJCS website; but it was not allowed for reasons that I do not understand.Over 95% of the students who went to the SJCS were members of this church. I see stupid stuff being discussed and entered on the website; but a good cause like this is not allowed is hard to understand.
I have no problem accepting donations and sending it to fr. alwyn; but it is time consuming to send request to every person. I felt the SJCS website was a good vehicle to get the information to all and not the Tanzania Goan website.; but those who control the web site for SJCS do not see it fit to be allowed.
so if you can get this request out to all and send the funds to me; i will collect it and send it to fr. alwyn.
______________________________
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
al fur wrote:
From: al fur
To: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000
THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
===============================
From: Antao, Tony
Subject: RE: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "j.birkmeyer"
Cc: "alwyn furtado"
Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2007, 8:35 AM
I put this information on the Tanzania Goan website. There was one response and he is a goan from Dar. He sent me pictures of the bad state condition of the church. so zanzibaris do not read the Tanzania Goan website site. It is read by people who lived in the mainland.
______________________________
O Antonio M. Antao
National Bank Examiner
Large Bank Supervision
___________________________________
LaSalle Bank NA
135 S. LaSalle Street
Suite 1905
Chicago, IL 60603
(312) 992-2360 or 414-708-5775(C)
(301) 433-6063 - fax
This message is intended for designated recipients only. If you have received this message in error, please delete the original and all copies and notify the sender immediately. Federal law prohibits the disclosure or other use of this information.
From: j.birkmeyer
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:49 PM
To: Antao, Tony
Cc: alwyn furtado
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
al fur wrote:
From: al fur
To: j.birkmeyer
Subject: RE: the st joseph church renovations
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:27:37 +0000
HI THERE JO,
A VERY HAPPY EASTER TO SELF AND THE FAMILY.MY THE GRACE OF THE RISEN CHRIST BRING YOU
PEACE AND LOVE. I JUST RETURNED LAST NIGHT FROM MEDJUGORJE (FORMERLY YUGOSLAVIA) I TOOK A GROUP OF 38 PERSONS ON A PILGRIMAGE THERE I GUESS YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE BL.VIRGIN APPEARING TO THE VISIONARIES. THEY WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW ONE OF THE VISIONARIES - THIS WAS MY 7TH. TRIP THERE -
BY THE WAY - I THINK TONY ANTAO IS A GOOD CONTACT FOR THE FUNDS TO ZBAR CATHEDRAL -
I AM TO TIED UP WITH THE WORK HERE - I DO HOPE TO GO TO ZBR IN JULY -WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. LOVES AND GOD BLESS. FR. ALWYN
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:41:12 -0700
From:
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
To:
CC:
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira
wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
===============================
From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: Fwd: RE: the st joseph church renovations
To: "tony antao"
Cc: "alwyn furtado"
Date: Monday, April 2, 2007, 10:49 PM
FYI. Please let me know if you can help Fr. Alwyn with this.
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
To: "tony madeira"
Date: Friday, March 30, 2007, 8:08 AM
Can I put this information out on the Tanzanian Goan Forum?
tony madeira wrote:
hi jo,
well i think some people do not want to enclose how much they donated so i think the easy way to send is a bank transfer direct to the account in which i have given you the attach details or write a cheque in the name of the account opeaned and post it to us you can use my box number and it will be deposited in the st joesph church renovation with a recipt .
my box number is : tony madeira
Tony Madeira
p o box 251
Zanzibar
Tanzania
=============================
From: tony madeira
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
To:
Cc:
Date: Friday, March 30, 2007, 5:14 AM
hi jo,
well i think some people do not want to enclose how much they donated so i think the easy way to send is a bank transfer direct to the account in which i have given you the attach details or write a cheque in the name of the account opeaned and post it to us you can use my box number and it will be deposited in the st joesph church renovation with a recipt .
my box number is : tony madeira
Tony Madeira
p o box 251
Zanzibar
Tanzania
==========================
From: j.birkmeyer
Subject: Re: the st joseph church renovations
To: "tony madeira"
Cc:
Date: Thursday, March 29, 2007, 10:41 PM
Tony:
I think many people will have some problems doing a bank to bank transfer since most people are used to just sending checks to a "collector' who then does the transfers.
For instance, Fr. Lloyd has been collecting for the past 25 years for projects in Walezo and Magi ya Chai (Arusha). We sent the money to him and then he is responsible for getting the money to the proper account in Germany.
i would suggest, to make it easier for people in North America to contribute,(I would imagine the same for UK) that someone here be responsible for opening an account here, and then, when a substantial amount has been deposited, to make the bank to bank transfer.
It is very easy to open an account in the US. Perhaps Fr. Alwyn or Tony Antao can be responsible for this - they can then send the names of the donors to the Committee and the Committee can then recognize the donation.
Let me know what comes of this so that I can post the information (or you can post it also) on the Tanzanian Goans forum.
Jo
tony madeira wrote:
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
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From: tony madeira
Subject: the st joesphchurch renovations
To:
Cc:
Date: Thursday, March 29, 2007, 10:10 AM
Hi Jo,
Hope all is well last sunday the new committie the prist announced in the Church
the Goans names are as follows:
Tony Madeira
Alice salim
Raymond Martins
Iggi Moniz
Richerd Babtisa
Anton Gomes
These are the Goans, you do not need to give any money to any one to avoid confusion there is a accounrt opeaned (see attachment) the name of the account is St Josesph Church renovation.
Note:
All payments should be done through bank to bank and you will be given a recipt what you have donated. please dear friends help our church we are less then one pecerent of christians we need help from our loved ones.
Rgds,
Tony
==============================
From: tony madeira
Subject: FW: Fwd: PLEASE HELP TO RENOVATE OUR CHURCH,PLEASE HEAR A CRY OF OUR BISHOP
To:
Date: Thursday, March 15, 2007, 8:38 AM
Hi Jo,
well just in short this sunday there will be a committe which the bishop will anounce offical in churchwith about seven goans and the rest 5 will be locals includining a priest also you can wait as there is an account which is opeaned called the revnovation of the church in which after the church anounces the names then i will informe you who is incharge and also there will be a bank details for those who want to send the money direct its bank to bank wait and a recipt will be issued to you eighter scaned on e mail or posted to respective donners, i informe you .
regs tony
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From: al fur
Subject: Re: FW: PLEASE HELP TO RENOVATE OUR CHURCH,PLEASE HEAR A CRY OF OUR BISHOP
To
Date: Monday, January 22, 2007, 11:37 PM
Hi There Tony,
Greetings from Calif. I would like to assure everyone that Bishop Augustine Shao is doing a terrific job in Zanizibar. My last visit there was three years ago and hope to visit again with some friends this July/August. His School programme on the Island is a real challenge as we see the First Secondary Catholic School coming up since the Revolution. Last year when he visited California we arranged for him to speak at St. Christopher's School in San Jose and money was raised for his School programme. I believe that the students here are enthusiastic about this programme and continue raising funds here. This is a major part of the Evangelization programme.Let's not forget we benefited from it in the past. So now let's face the Renovation of our cathedral in which so many of us celebrated the Sacramental and Prayer life of the Church, and where we received the Sacraments of Initiation - Baptism, Confirmation and Eucharist and some even Marriage. No doubt through the years the Masika rains and time have done much damage and repairs are much needed and prohibitively expensive. Let's all pitch in for the repairs to the Cathedral the cradle of our spiritual life. So Tony! form a Finance Committee with Bishop Shao's approval, which will be accountable for funds from abroad and we will do what we can from this part of the world. Lets all meet the needs of the present to build for the future and leave the past alone. His blessings will continue to be bounteous to us - He is never outdone in generosity.
God bless. Fr. Al Furtado C.S.Sp.
===========================
From: Antao, Tony
Subject: RE: Z'bar
To: "j.birkmeyer" "Lloyd Rebeiro"
Date: Sunday, December 10, 2006, 2:25 PM
I am very very familiar with this project by the archbishop of Zanzibar. Fr. Alwyn Furtado has been very active in this project and is a good friend of the archbishop.The archbishop visits the USA regualrly to raise funds and has good support here in the USA. He recently spoke at a convention in Washington D.C. He has good connections in the USA.
-----Original Message-----
From: j.birkmeyer [mailto:jbirkmeyer@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sun 12/10/2006 12:30 PM
To: Lloyd Rebeiro; Antao, Tony
Cc:
Subject: Fwd: Z'bar
Thought you both might be interested in what the Archdiocese is doing in ZNZ although this is not run by the Sisters of the Precious Blood.
Cels wrote:
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 23:27:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Cels
Subject: Z'bar
To: Jonita Birkmeyer
Check this website
http://www.dioceseofzanzibar.org/ChezuWisCtr.htm
===================================
From: antonio antao
Subject: Re: [SJCSZanzibar] Cathedral Restoration
To: "j.birkmeyer"
Date: Monday, March 17, 2008, 7:53 PM
ok
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 4:06 PM
Subject: Fwd: [SJCSZanzibar] Cathedral Restoration
Tony:
This is what I had posted a year ago. When you get the OK from Tony M and you know what the breakdown for the various repairs are, we could repost this message with the updates.
Jo
"j.birkmeyer" wrote:
To: SJCSZAN
From: "j.birkmeyer"
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:13:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SJCSZanzibar] Cathedral Restoration
This information has been posted on this site because the Cathedral was/is a place of worship for many of the members of this forum.
St. Joseph's Cathedral in Zanzibar is the oldest Church in East Africa. The Cathedral was designed by the same architect who designed the Notre Dame Basilica at Marseilles, France. French missionaries built St Joseph's between 1893 and 1898. The twin spires of St Joseph can be seen from any elevated point in town and it is one of the first sights that travelers see when the ferry arrives in Zanzibar.
The building is greatly in need of repair. Because of its historical value, the government has placed certain restrictions on the work. It will be extensive and will require technical competence.
A committee has been formed in Zanzibar to oversee the restoration efforts. The cost of the repair for the roofing has been estimated at 128,000 Euros.
For more information on how you can be involved in the efforts to restore this historic edifice, please contact:
Tony Madeira
or
Fr. Alwyn Furtado
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
==============================
On Sun, 3/16/08, antonio antao
wrote:
From: antonio antao
Subject: Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
To: "tony Madeira
Date: Sunday, March 16, 2008, 8:43 PM
Tony Madeira:
I notice that Benito and his group are trying to raise funds for the restoration of our beautiful St.Joseph Church in Zanzibar. I am willing to help in this noble cause and work with the group here in the USA. Let me know how this committee is being arranged and doing the fund raising etc.
On another note, I recently came from a vacation in Istanbul,Turkey and saw in the Islamic city, the beautiful church that was the Pearl of the Eastern Catholic church-Hagha Sophia-Also called St.Sophia Catherdal. It was converted to a mosque and now is a museum and is being restored. And it got me thinking of our gothic church in zanzibar. We must do everything to preserve and restore it until UNESCO provides fund etc.
Let me know and give me the green light to go ahead. I saw Fr. Alwyn in San Francisco last month and he was very passionate about saving the church.Over 95% of the graduates from the St. Joseph Covenent school worshipped in this church and provided us with good support. Hope we can ask them all to help.We must save the house of our Catholic Faith.
----- Original Message -----
From: tony madeira
To: astridleo@btinternet.com ; mmdacunha@gmail.com ; johnbc@dircon.co.uk ; bvents@aol.com ; aantao@wi.rr.com ; jbirkmeyer@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 7:20 AM
Subject: FW: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
From: malaika99@hotmail.com
To: tonykosh@hotmail.com; stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:02:35 +0000
Dear Tony,
Thanks for your email re the above Renovation Committee for St. Joseph's Cathedral.
This is a very noble effort on the part of all who are volunteering and no doubt
the sacrifice of their Time, Effort and Donations will be well rewarded by the Lord.
St. Joseph's Cathedral is where we received some, if not all, of the Sacramental graces of Baptism, Eucharist, Confirmation and Marriage. Furthermore, St. Joseph's School only existed because of the Church, as Education was part of the Missionary endeavour of the Holy Ghost Fathers based on the injunction of Christ:'Go and Teach...'.
From this part of the World we will do the best we can to raise Funds for this
noble effort. Furthermore if an effort could be made by the Committee to seek help from
other sources to have St. Joseph's Cathedral declared as a 'Historical Monument' as
the Anglican Church is, then all the necessary funds would come from the United Nations
Historical and Environmental Fund. However,this is for now may be only a dream away. For the present we would have to depend on our own effort. I will do all I can from this end to help in the effort of fundraising.
God bless. Keep the info. coming.
Fr. Al
Fr. Alwyn Furtado C.S.Sp.
St. Mark's Church, 325 Marine View, BELMONT, CA. 94002.
From:
To:
Subject: FW: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:35:11 +0300
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From: BVENTS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:19:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
To: stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com; tonykosh@hotmail.com
CC: astridleo@btinternet.com; joedelord@hotmail.com; machado@freenetname.co.uk; info@jbcoutinho.com
Dear Anthony cc: For the attention of Tony Madeira - re my mail sent to you yesterday.
Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Introducing myself, I am Benito De Souza, ex-student of St. Joseph's Convent School Zanzibar, born in Zanzibar and it will always remain as my home.
Taking note of the current condition of St. Joseph's RC Church, we are forming a committee to help raise funds to support the project in restoring our church to full strength and bring back the pride to our RC members still living in Zanzibar.
Unfortunately some of us were committed in promoting SJCS Zanzibar Reunion 2008 which was held in Goa, and now that is all over, we want to put some effort into working alongside your team to help raise funds to get all the work necessary done as soon as possible and perhaps in phases starting with the most important work (roof) done first. (We have seen the scaffolding erected and work being carried out but do nor know the latest position).
Very much appreciate if you could kindly advise who are your team members working on this project. Who is the first point of contact to provide up-to-date information on what needs to be done, costs and availability of builders. Most important the time scales for each job.
If you have available costs for work to be done, either entire church or each part in stages, we would very much appreciate you forward as soon as possible.
Right now we are putting a team together and any first hand up-to-date information will be very useful. Once we have confirmed our team members, we will let you know.
I look forward to hearing from you,and in the meantime you are assured we will do all we can to assist, and in turn we need your co-operation in posting us details as requested.
Also appreciate if you could keep us advised on the current financial position, e.g. Is work currently still going on, and are there funds to keep progressing?
Many thanks.
Benito de Souza
(Team member supporting St. Joseph's Church Zbar).
======================================================
Subject: Email Address of the Renovation of St. Joseph's Cathedral Zanzibar
Dear Office Bearers
Kindly be informed that the official email address for all correspondance concerning the renovation works on the Cathedral is as follows
stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Thanking you in advance for your kind co-operation.
Yours Sincerely
Anthony M. Gomes
Secretary
===============================
From:
To:
Subject: RE: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:02:35 +0000
Dear Tony,
Thanks for your email re the above Renovation Committee for St. Joseph's Cathedral.
This is a very noble effort on the part of all who are volunteering and no doubt
the sacrifice of their Time, Effort and Donations will be well rewarded by the Lord.
St. Joseph's Cathedral is where we received some, if not all, of the Sacramental graces of Baptism, Eucharist, Confirmation and Marriage. Furthermore, St. Joseph's School only existed because of the Church, as Education was part of the Missionary endeavour of the Holy Ghost Fathers based on the injunction of Christ:'Go and Teach...'.
From this part of the World we will do the best we can to raise Funds for this
noble effort. Furthermore if an effort could be made by the Committee to seek help from
other sources to have St. Joseph's Cathedral declared as a 'Historical Monument' as
the Anglican Church is, then all the necessary funds would come from the United Nations
Historical and Environmental Fund. However,this is for now may be only a dream away. For the present we would have to depend on our own effort. I will do all I can from this end to help in the effort of fundraising.
God bless. Keep the info. coming.
Fr. Al
Fr. Alwyn Furtado C.S.Sp.
St. Mark's Church, 325 Marine View, BELMONT, CA. 94002.
From:
To:
Subject: FW: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:35:11 +0300
From: BVENTS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:19:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
To: stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com; tonykosh@hotmail.com
CC: astridleo@btinternet.com; joedelord@hotmail.com; machado@freenetname.co.uk; info@jbcoutinho.com
Dear Anthony cc: For the attention of Tony Madeira - re my mail sent to you yesterday.
Re: Renovation work on St. Joseph's Church Zanzibar
Introducing myself, I am Benito De Souza, ex-student of St. Joseph's Convent School Zanzibar, born in Zanzibar and it will always remain as my home.
Taking note of the current condition of St. Joseph's RC Church, we are forming a committee to help raise funds to support the project in restoring our church to full strength and bring back the pride to our RC members still living in Zanzibar.
Unfortunately some of us were committed in promoting SJCS Zanzibar Reunion 2008 which was held in Goa, and now that is all over, we want to put some effort into working alongside your team to help raise funds to get all the work necessary done as soon as possible and perhaps in phases starting with the most important work (roof) done first. (We have seen the scaffolding erected and work being carried out but do nor know the latest position).
Very much appreciate if you could kindly advise who are your team members working on this project. Who is the first point of contact to provide up-to-date information on what needs to be done, costs and availability of builders. Most important the time scales for each job.
If you have available costs for work to be done, either entire church or each part in stages, we would very much appreciate you forward as soon as possible.
Right now we are putting a team together and any first hand up-to-date information will be very useful. Once we have confirmed our team members, we will let you know.
I look forward to hearing from you,and in the meantime you are assured we will do all we can to assist, and in turn we need your co-operation in posting us details as requested.
Also appreciate if you could keep us advised on the current financial position, e.g. Is work currently still going on, and are there funds to keep progressing?
Many thanks.
Benito de Souza
= = = = = = = = = =
Subject: Email Address of the Renovation of St. Joseph's Cathedral Zanzibar
Dear Office Bearers
Kindly be informed that the official email address for all correspondence concerning the renovation works on the Cathedral is as follows
stjosephznzrenovation@yahoo.com
Thanking you in advance for your kind co-operation.
Yours Sincerely
Anthony M. Gomes
Secretary
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